Some interesting Cipher Mysteries comments arrived here today from “RT”, prodding me to take a second look at something I nosed around a while back (but then promptly forgot to blog about). Here’s what he wrote:-

RT comment #1: “I think the SM was married to Jessica.

RT comment #2: “Has anyone thought that she could have been Mrs J E Styn. Or Van Styn? […]

RT comment #3: “I along with others have always thought she was married to him. I think that for some reason she did a runner from him met Prosper and changed her name. He tracked her down and things went sour. That is only my opinion but you need proof. I also am very certain that Robin is the SM’s son. I think that Prosper was aware of this and accepted it. It worked well for him as his parents were very wealthy and a son would enable him to collect an increased inheritance.

For all the ideas, notions, and speculations in there, this is a splendidly romantic secret history, albeit one woefully short of actual facts (which RT freely admits). But let’s look again at the primary evidence we do have – the “Jestyn” signature in the copy of the Rubaiyat given to Alf Boxall:-

jestyn-signature

According to Gerry Feltus: when Jessie met Boxall in 1944, she knew that he was married and had two children (his second child, a daughter called Lesley, had just been born), and she had his address in Maroubra: so I think that quite why she felt the need to sign herself with a different name “Jestyn” (or “JEstyn” as Feltus writes it) in the Rubaiyat is an open (and slightly perplexing) question. And there’s definitely a gap between the “JE” part and the “styn” part.

Another unexplained question from this time is why Jessie changed her name to Thomson several years before her husband-to-be’s divorce came through. According to RT’s (admittedly unverified) story, this was because she was ‘on the run’ from her previous partner / husband: but all we actually know for sure is that she “terminated her employment as a nurse in Sydney” in 1946, moved to Mentone near her parents, and then moved to Adelaide in early 1947, where she gave birth (to Robin) in the middle of 1947, all (again) according to the ever-reliable Gerry Feltus.

Could it be, then, that the secret history of this signature is that it is actually “J. E. Styn“, and that Jessica had taken her earlier partner’s surname? I wondered about this a while back, and so did various searches (Trove etc) for “Styn” that all turned up nothing at all promising. It all seemed to be a blank.

But today, I did another trawl over broadly the same set of archives and found a single reference I had previously missed to a Willen Styn. It’s “NAA: PP14/3 DUTCH/STYN W”, containing “STYN Willen – Nationality : Dutch – [Application Form for Registration as Alien]”, dating from 1916-1920, item barcode 5143479 in Perth. If you want to see the catalogue entry, go to the National Archives of Australia, click on RecordSearch, and then search for Willen Styn. I’ve already ordered a copy of the actual record, and will let you all know when it arrives.

Note that the PP14/3 series of archives is “the Register of aliens maintained under War Precautions (Aliens Registered) Regulations 1916”, i.e. a list of foreign nationals in Australia at the time of WW1 (presumably because Styn was Dutch). The Australian archives have plenty of related immigration files from the same period (e.g. PP14/1, which I went through the index of just in case there was some kind of misspelling of Styn in there, but to no avail).

So… I’ll say it. If “Jestyn” should properly be read as “J. E. Styn”, then might the Somerton Man be the somewhat-off-the-radar Dutchman Willen Styn? Let’s go and look for some evidence, see what we turn up.

Right now, I have a sneaking suspicion that he may turn out to be even harder to track than dear old Horace Charles Reynolds… but we shall see! So this is your cue: Cipher Mysteries research legions, please descend upon the collected Australian archives and see if you can find anything – anything at all! – about the mysterious Willen Styn. Good hunting! 🙂

94 thoughts on “The secret history of Jestyn, and Willen Styn…?

  1. Now this is a Cipher Mystery story that I have enjoyed reading. For some reason it feels absolutely right!. I did notice the reference on NAA to a Willen Styn. Thank you so much for posting this Nick.

  2. Could be J E Slyn instead but I am sure it is J E Styn! There are Slyn surnames out there as well!

  3. After the Somerton man was whacked why was he left on the beach? It would have been easier to take him out back unless the intention was to have him found.
    Was this sending a message?
    Did the killers remove the labels from his clothes and place the suitcase in the railroad station?

  4. The dude on December 30, 2013 at 10:51 pm said:

    Wow.

  5. I’m no professional but have read a bit on handwriting, and I think the signature might be worth seeking a professional’s opinion.

    The loose – not to say lax – form of the ‘J’ contrasts with the form of ‘styn’ which looks almost masculine in the firmness and unfussiness of the hand. The t’s cross bar would be interepreted, as I understand it, as evidence of a kindly and optimistic nature, while the closed lower loop of the ý would indicate a person disinclined to displays of emotion – very different from the ‘J’. Traditionally the Greek ‘E’ is supposed to indicate an ethical and upright nature, perhaps true or perhaps simply a relic of Conan Doyle.

    Since handwriting is still used today in some high-level companies as preliminary sieve for job-applications there should be enough experts out there – any reading this?

  6. OK, I will entertain this theory for a while, but…isn’t it at least as likely that the surname was “Estyn”? That would explain why the upper case “E” is followed by the all lower case “styn”? It is clear from the samples of her handwriting available on the web that Jessie was reasonably literate and distinguished between lower case “s” and “S”, “e” and “E” etc.

  7. FWIW, my brief research suggests that “Styn” (as distinct from “Steyn” etc) is more common in both the USA and Poland (than the Netherlands or South Africa).

    The name “Estyn” is even rarer in Australia, but not unknown. NAA name searches don’t turn up much (other than one man who had it as a first name), but others appear in the newspapers on Trove.

  8. PS – I think only an illiterate in those days would have written a small “s” for a capital letter (styn). Each day’s compulstory schooling included a full period each devoted to spelling, grammar, and dictation. Even if Steyn were not a native speaker of English, I don’t see how he’d get that wrong.

  9. Willem is a common Dutch given name, I don’t think Willen is. Styn would be an variant (old-fashioned, possibly fossilized as a surname) or anglicization of Stijn, common as a given name, known as a surname.

  10. Hi Nick,
    Fascinating if this turns out to be true–could well be the reason JE called herself “Thomson” for some 3 years or so before she eventually married Prosper and, if Prosper’s family were quite wealthy this would be an incentive for her to stick to him-as she did have a child to bring up. So, it could be that Jessica’s signature is quite correct on the verse and not a code as I and, no doubt, others have always assumed.

  11. [Peter De Wachter adds:]

    Some notes from somebody who speaks Dutch:

    – Be aware that “Styn” might also be spelled “Stijn”. It’s a common
    Dutch first name, but I’ve never seen it as a last name.

    – “Willen” is likely a misspelling of “Willem”, another very common
    first name.

    – If you’re willing to read the signature as Dutch, it might be the
    phrase “Je Stijn”: “Your Stijn”.

  12. Flavia, Peter: thanks for your comments on the name. I’m aware that “Willen” and “Styn” both look wrong, but right now I only have an online catalogue entry of a single unseen data point (some or all of which may be misspelt), built on top of a wobbly reading of a single signature, so am trying not to get people’s hopes up too much. Normal history is hard enough, and this is history right at the edge. 😐

    I’ve also wondered whether it was a fake name (Google helpfully lists mentions of the surname “Willenstyn”), added by someone merely pretending to be Dutch. With the way everything else about the Somerton Man case has worked, perhaps treating every aspect of the evidence with suspicion might not be such a bad idea. 🙂

    All the same, I’m hoping that the full contents of the alien registration form will contain enough additional information to narrow things down. For example, the scanned records for “VITALI Siro” – http://soda.naa.gov.au/item/5131443 – run to 30 (!) pages. It seems that during wartime, a foreign national had to inform the police if he/she intended either to settle in a certain district, or to travel outside of the police district where they normally lived: the file would therefore contain the accumulated records of that foreign national’s movements during the period of restriction, so may yet turn out to be surprisingly revealing. Fingers crossed!

  13. RT: the image with the signature is hyperlinked to a larger scan of the same page, where you can see that that the ‘t’s are crossed in the same loose way elsewhere. “Slyn” is possible, but my vote is (as yours) currently for “Styn”… hopefully we shall see!

  14. Styn and stijn would look the very similar in cursive? I’m not sure if that’s relevant.

  15. Perhaps that is why the t is so extended…it is intended to cross the t’s and dot the i’s so to speak.

  16. @Diane The way the letter E is written is how I was taught to write a capital E (cursive) in the 1970s in primary school, Australia; so I don’t find it unusual. Incidentally all the other characters also look the same as I was taught except for possibly the for the ‘I’ and ‘T’, but to be honest I can’t remember how we were taught to write them. Of course by the time we were in highschool we all had our own personal style.

  17. I wonder what the surnames are on Robin’s birth certificate (for both Robin and Jessie) and also who the father is listed as, or if the father is “unknown” on the certificate.

    Also, is it possible that she left her job at the hospital simply because she became pregnant? I’m pretty sure that being an unmarried pregnant woman in 1940s Australia would have been frowned upon. So perhaps the reason for her leaving her job and moving back close to her parents is as simple as that.

  18. Still can’t understand if “Styn” is her surname-why is the ‘s’ on her signature so small? When you read the second line of the verse-there are 4 “s” on this line and all 4, as written by Jessica, are different in shape/size. Also, just something else I noticed, on the second & fourth line, the last word(s) “I swore” & “tore” are written higher than the preceding words on the same lines. Similar to the 3rd line on the Code where the letters “O” & “QC” are also higher-coincidence?

  19. Is it possible that she signed her surname-“Jestyn” and not her first name?

  20. Kaizokugari on January 1, 2014 at 9:11 am said:

    That’s a nice bunch of wrapped up presents Santa pushed down the chimney, ain’t it? 😀
    Won’t interfere much with the pros here. Happy New Year and “keep keeping” it real everyone…

  21. I found a string of conversations on Roots Web that are interesting. I have contacted the author for more information!

    Subject: Re: A “Jessie Harkness” in my family tree!!!
    Date sent: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:47:53 +0100 (BST)
    Priority: NORMAL

    Further to my message of Tue 25 Jul 2000, I have now
    discovered who the Jessie HARKNESS in my family tree is: she is
    in fact not you, the Jessie HARKNESS from the MCDOUGALL Mailing
    List, but the Jessie HARKNESS from “Adelaide, South Australia” – which, I must admit, I find even more
    exciting!!! (Sorry!)

    Jamie

    Since finding that Jessie HARKNESS, I have confirmed that she is the same one that
    married a Prosper THOMSON, (she changed
    her surname to THOMSON),as Prosper Thomson was already married, a letter I recently received
    from Jessie’s son, Robin THOMSON as I wrote in my last message).

    So there you have it. I’m not sure that you are interested
    in this, but I thought you might be, if you are researching
    the HARKNESS/THOMSON family. So, do you know if you are related to
    this lot? It would be nice to be able to add you to my
    family tree!

    Actually, I’ll send a copy of this to Robin as well, as
    I seem to remember that he is descended from some
    THOMSONs. I expect that he is probably still busy, but he might be interested. (Are you two related?)

    Well, bye for now, and I hope that the Mailing List
    is going well without me.

    Best wishes,

    Oliver

  22. Does anyone know what year Jessica Thomson identified her connection to The Somerton Man Case? These emails on Roots Web are 14 years old?

  23. Also Jessica never graduated from the hospital she was training at in Sydney. Derek Abbott couldn’t find any record of such. I am trying to work out why Jessica listed herself as a ‘Sister’ in the Adelaide phone book for the Moseley Street, Glenelg address when she wasn’t qualified.

  24. Clive: I completely agree that the ‘s’ looks much more like an ‘s’ than an ‘S’, and that her ‘s’es are indeed variable. But if anyone has a better explanation as to what “Jestyn” means, I certainly haven’t heard it. 🙁

    I’m not sure about the similarities to the Code, though… will have to look again more closely.

  25. I’m viewing the ‘Jestyn’ signature in my iphone so I have the opportunity of zooming right in. There is something about the ‘E’ that doesn’t look quite right. Almost like it was added afterwards or amended over a different letter. Could it be Jo Styn? She was known as Jo to her friends.

  26. RT is yet another troll with mental health issues, making up garbage because they have nothing intelligent to say.

  27. RT: I’ve wondered about this too – it looks somewhat as if the ‘e’ was added in a slightly darker ink, because the end-stroke of the ornate ‘J’ goes slightly beyond the bottom of the ‘e’.

    So again, in the post I should have mentioned the possibility that the original signature was “_J_ Styn” (i.e. loopy ‘J’), in which case the ‘s’ would kind of look intermediate between an ‘s’ and an ‘S’. Are any other signatures still out there we might compare this with?

  28. Debra: the possibility that “Jestyn” is actually “J. E. Styn” was something that I considered a while back but never got round to posting about, so it was simply that RT happened to remind me. The rest of his story sounds broadly as unlikely as every other Tamam Shud theory I’ve heard proposed, but until such time as we have solidly evidential rocks to throw at all these beautiful-looking windows, who can say? 🙂

  29. Well, another possibility is that he was her brother.

  30. I am talking about this rubbish:

    “I found a string of conversations on Roots Web that are interesting. I have contacted the author for more information!” etc.

  31. Craig,
    I’m not sure of the model used in S.A., but until the late ’60s and early ’70s when a new style was introduced, the handwriting taught in NSW and Victoria though it had minor differences such as the way small ‘t’ was written, looked pretty much like Queen Victoria’s style –
    Examples from her diary are online.

    The generation educated before W.W.1 in those states used a still more old-fashioned style, pretty much the clerk’s full copperplate, though I’ve noticed that documents by academics, doctors and lawyers tend to lose the flourishes and look more like the ‘steyn’ in that signature.

  32. Debra I am not a troll and I don’t suffer from any mental health issues. Who the hell do you think you are? Judging by your comments you have anger management issues.

  33. RT: do you have a link for this? It doesn’t seem to be in either the THOMSON or HARKNESS archived threads on RootsWeb.

  34. Debra direct your anger at someone else please. I am well aware this site has plenty of Taman Trolls. I am certainly not one of them. Thanks for ruining this thread you aggressive idiot.

  35. Sorry Nick if you are going to approve comments like Debra’s I’m afraid I will no longer contribute to this thread and others. It’s it clear bullying and it’s unacceptable.

  36. RT: posting a link to the RootsWeb thread you quoted would surely be enough to reverse her opinion.

  37. I am unable to post a link to the site on this page. Your filter systems don’t allow it.

  38. You should never have allowed Debra to have even posted that comment in the first place it’s is unacceptable.

  39. So you are condoning that it is acceptable to publish a comment which attacks another person Nick?

  40. All Debra needed to say was could you put up the link. What Debra said (and you published it) was unfounded and abusive.

  41. RT: I’m sorry if you felt I misjudged that. Moderating a site with so many active Tamam Trolls is a perilous tightrope to be walking each day, and there’s rarely an answer that is right for everyone. If you want to send me the link you were trying to post, I’ll edit it in to your comment – as always, I’m nickpelling (at) nickpelling (dot) com.

  42. Furphy on January 1, 2014 at 4:22 pm said:

    One can also read that signature as “J Estijn” and Estijn is a Dutch surname.

    All the same, Occam’s razor suggests that Jestyn was merely a nickname, probably chosen by the woman herself for (1) its prominence in aristocratic/celebrity circles in the 193Os/40s (e.g. Baron John Jestyn Llewellin and Jestyn Philipps, 2nd Viscount St Davids) and; (2) some resonances with JESsie Ellen harknESS.

  43. I wondered if Willen Steyn mightn’t be another instance of a name assumed in the confusion of the second world war’s ending, and since people do tend to assume names known to them, I thought the following might intrigue some readers here.

    A play which would have still been well-known when the Somerton man died wasone written by Jean Cocteau and first performed in Paris, then elsewhere through France as L’Aigle a deux tetes in 1946. An English version was staged in London in that same year.

    It was in New York the following year. and in 1948 it was made into a film directed by Cocteau himself, though that version proved a disaster.

    It’s a film about a queen and an assassin.

    Not sure just when it arrived in Australia, but I should expect it staged soon after the London version, since in those times Australia was an strongly imitative of English ways as it is increasingly now of America’s.

    One of the characters in that play is named Willenstein (not -steyn),

    A couple of details in the plot are oddly concordant with the story of Somerton Man, though it would take a peculiar sense of humour to have made this deliberately so.
    Just for curiosity’s sake..
    (i) The play is about Ludwig, a mad Bavarian king found drowned in Lake Stamberg ..”in circumstances which have never been satisfactorily explained.” – to quote a synopsis.

    (ii) Cocteau drew upon Remy de Gourmont’s ‘Promenades littéraires’. his portrait of the Queen Elizabeth of Austria,

    I daresay a novelist could devise a marvellously complicated novel from all this, so let me point out that Somerton Man died on December 1, 1948, the end of the year following those when George V’s third son served as Australia’s Governor General, but several years before the visit of Australia’s queen to that country: Elizabeth II visited from 3 February 1954 – 1 April 1954.

    So there you go, you budding airport novelists… 🙂

  44. a friend on January 1, 2014 at 8:03 pm said:

    Seems that the letter from Oliver to Jamie is an adaptation of something that appeared on Rootsweb on the date in question. Link is to someone named FELTHAM. Try a search with some of the language in question.The wording is almost identical, with adaptations of course.

  45. Thanks a ‘a friend’ it was sent to my email inbox recently.

  46. Why doesn’t everyone wait for the National Archives of Australia to respond to Nick’s request for a digital copy of Willen Styn’s record and then act on the available information.

  47. Celestine on January 1, 2014 at 9:18 pm said:

    What is Marshall’s identity from the Marshall Files? What is his provenance and how does he claim to be related to the Somerton Man?

  48. Or if anyone is based in Australia and near the location in question, and the available file ‘is marked as open’ you can visit the National Archives in person to view it.

  49. “RT” Whether Jessie graduated at RNSH or not. There is a listing of nurses who graduated from the RNSH from the year 1899 onwards. The 1946 listing shows Jessie E. Harkness as one of those nurses. She was supposed to have graduated on 11-11-45. I have contacted the RNSH on two separate occasions to try & glean further information to confirm what date Jessie graduated, that’s assuming that Nov 1945 was correct. I have had no respond, which could mean the following: They don’t reveal information on individual nurses, they can’t be bothered to look into their records or, she didn’t graduate and her record went “missing”.

  50. RT: from where I’m sitting, you did something pretty much indistinguishable from trolling (copying a faked-up RootsWeb thread into a comment), and got correctly called on it by Debra and ‘a friend’. Now… may I ask who sent that fake thread to you?

  51. Teal Black on January 1, 2014 at 10:47 pm said:

    Hi RT sorry you have encountered this. Was it sent from an email address ‘MCMEOWZ’ ? or ‘SOPHIE JENSEN’. You really shouldn’t read everything that is sent to your email account.

  52. The dude on January 2, 2014 at 6:40 am said:

    Marshall appears to be suggesting that he is Robin Thomsons son. Either that orJL is posing under his name which would be hardly surprising.

  53. The dude on January 2, 2014 at 6:53 am said:

    On the handwriting and specifically the discussion regrading the letter E appearing is a stronger ink and the possibility that it was added later to Jessicas signature in her letter to AB.
    I suspect that the letter was written with an old fashion fountain pen. Ive never used one so someone else may be able to shed some light here but my understanding is that you dipped the pen into an ink well regularly as required whilst you wrote? if this is the case the stronger ink on the “e’ could be explained simply by Jess inking just after writing the J .

  54. The dude on January 2, 2014 at 12:48 pm said:

    Hi Joel/ “mcmeowz”/ teal black. not hard to flush you out is it?

  55. Helen Foxton on January 2, 2014 at 2:04 pm said:

    Joel is just protecting his nan. Have some compassion.

  56. [Probably not] "Celestine" on January 2, 2014 at 2:15 pm said:

    [Troll Probability: High]

    Joel broke into my house and planted video bugs every where. I need help.

  57. Hi Nick, On the verse page just to the left and below of the “J” for Jessie signature, there is a vertical, narrow width section on the page which seems to have been peeled downwards. Was something written on this small section? and it was carefully pulled away, without creating a hole in the page.

  58. Clive: I speculated whether it was originally a kiss (“X”) but removed by Alf Boxall before giving the book to his wife. Unless you’ve got a better suggestion…? 😉

  59. a friend on January 5, 2014 at 3:26 am said:

    It is probably where the sticky tape was removed, after the Littlemore Interview, where they had put a small piece of paper over the top of the name.

  60. Brian Miller on January 5, 2014 at 4:22 am said:

    It sure looks like a mark a piece of tape would leave if peeled off. Did she tape a photo to the page?

  61. It’s where Alf covered up JEstyns name.

  62. Furphy on January 6, 2014 at 7:25 am said:

    There is another possible explanation for that incongruous “E”. Miss Harkness was engaging in the playful misuse of characters. By way of analogy, were she a teenager these days, she might call herself J3$$13 H@RKN355.

  63. Celestine on January 7, 2014 at 12:08 am said:

    Miss Harkness was capitalizing the E to denote Jessica Ellen, as part of the word Jestyn.

  64. Furphy on January 7, 2014 at 3:08 pm said:

    Hi Celestine, that is possible, although I believe she was christened simply “Jessie” — without a middle name — was known as “Jo ” to at least some family members and that “Jessica Ellen” came later. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

  65. She was born – Jessie Ellen H………..

  66. She later changed her name to Jessica.

  67. I knew the nurse in Switzerland. A lovely soul.

  68. Celestine on January 8, 2014 at 9:39 am said:

    Except she was never in Switzerland. Another fabrication.

  69. If you couldn’t even find out her travel history celestene. . I think you might be a few tadpoles short of a pond. 🙂

  70. Celestine haven’t you got a test tube baby to look after? I don’t know where you find the time!

  71. Celestine on January 11, 2014 at 8:36 am said:

    Why can’t we know the big secret, R? Or should I say, Marshall?

  72. Never heard of a Marshall Celestine or should I say Rachel Rebecca Egan formally known as Jenny O’Neill.

  73. You really need to stop drinking all that white wine and popping Valium’s Celestine. Go and tend to your test tube baby instead.

  74. The truth is powerful

  75. Smerdon did it. He was the chemist. And his father lived across the rd from JEstyn

  76. B Deveson on January 12, 2014 at 11:43 am said:

    D.A. You jest, but you might be closer to the truth than you think. A medical student lived at 92 Moseley, and there were quite a few chemist, pharmacists and medical practitioners in Glenelg and Somerton Park. And bucket loads of nurses.
    I have the names of all the residents in Moseley Street 1950. Nobody called Smerdon, or anything similar. Good try, but you could do better.
    No Prosper or Jessie listed either. But nobody listed at 90a Moseley Street, so I expect they were not enrolled to vote.

  77. B. Deveson
    Voting is compulsory for all Australian citizens. Not sure offhand what the voting age was back then, but Jessie was surely of age.

  78. I think if you look deeper you will find smerdons father across the rd from JEstyn in 1948

  79. Furphy on January 12, 2014 at 5:27 pm said:

    Diane, as has been discussed elsewhere on this forum recently, there is anecdotal evidence that registration _is_ avoidable and if one is never registered to vote, any failure to vote never becomes an issue. Especially if one moves interstate – as both Prosper and Jessie (at least three times in her case) did. If either of them were ever enrolled in a State other than SA, they would simply have dropped off that State’s roll and never reappeared, anywhere.

  80. B Deveson on January 12, 2014 at 8:40 pm said:

    D.A. Well, as you alluded to, there are two Smerdons listed in the 1950 Glenelg Commonwealth Electoral Roll. 7819: Smerdon, Alexander Henry. 8 Anzac Highway. Control Officer. And 7820 Smerdon, Avis Bell. 97 Jetty Road. Home duties.
    A “control officer” indeed. It sounds like Mr Smerdon might have been a range control officer at Woomera. But I can’t find any link to Jessie or Prosper thus far. Certainly worthy of further investigation.

  81. I agree furry. Especially if Jestyn changed her name in the west of the country before settling in Adelaide

  82. The Man found on Somerton Beach was JEstyns biological father.

  83. Marshall is a crony fake spy. Hired by JEstyns grandson that has been mentioned in previous matters on here. He has been set loose on us all to create misinformation and a state of chaos for gifted investigators like myself and many others.

  84. Agreed with Furphy, electrol lists are gold if they are enrolled but not to dispair if not listed as that happens also. Telephone listings of the time are another good angle. Less mobile phones back then 🙂
    D.A thats a big call… even if your info is correct, what is your evidence that it was that person?
    Could the head have been moved by the relevant authorities enough to cause this lividity?

  85. B Deveson on January 13, 2014 at 12:21 am said:

    Unfortunately, Alexander Henry Smerdon was a life long architect. “Control officer” probably meant what we would now call a building inspector.

  86. Seems like you’re fond of spreading misinformation also D.A.

  87. Go away Joel!

  88. [Troll Probability: High]

    Come back Joal

  89. [Troll Probability: High]

    My account has been hacked by trolls. 🙁 I have been to police. They are looking for James Thomson/Carl Thomson

  90. [Troll Probability: High]

    James tricked me saying he was my brother. This is a lie. I am heart broken at this. He produced a DNA test with results showing that we share the same Father. I have since found out that this is also a lie. Please stop who ever you are. XL

  91. Jessica Ellen + Justyn = JEstyn

    Possible?

    20 something “bohemians” are wont to play similar word games. It beats the “tina” for tiny explanation hands down. Now…Is it possible to find a Justyn with McMahon roots?

  92. Lady Ruth boat on November 5, 2014 at 7:41 am said:

    I like that a lot misca. McMahon macmahon is the key. Pakies is also vital.

  93. Hiya Nick. Well, I seem to have found a steain, in the family tree. It’s through a marriage and I don’t believe that it has ANYTHING to do with “JEstyn”;s siggy but given all of the hard work, I do feel obliged to share. The family of “Joseph Josephus Steain” born 1816 (not in Australia) died 18 November 1892 in Newtown, Hobart, Tasmania, connects into Jessica’s tree. Not directly. In fact, very indirectly, through marriages.

  94. Shalala on June 28, 2016 at 4:51 pm said:

    I am new and have a lot to cath up, I am am happy to see that someon saw a link to ‘Stijn’ which is indeed a common first name ( I am Flemish)

    This may not be new but did some see mailbox ‘mliabo’ + the ‘x’ above
    and also the wordt Samstag (samstga?) which is saturday in German?

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