Zodiac Killer Z32

The “Z32” cipher (i.e. the Zodiac Killer’s 32-character-long cipher, also known as the “map code” cipher, or the “Phillips roadmap cipher”) was sent to the San Francisco Chronicle on 26th Jun 1970. It was part of a letter that ended in this way:-

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This cipher was accompanied by a section of a map: made by the Phillips 66 company, this was a roadmap of California that at that time was widely available at service stations. (There’s a huge version here.) The Zodiac Killer had placed his signature symbol on top of Mount Diablo, together with what seem to be instructions as to how to link the map with the contents of the cipher.

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A follow-up note from the Zodiac Killer (on page 5 of the “little list” letter, postmarked 26th July 1970) added: “PS. The Mt. Diablo code concerns Radians &#inches along the radians“.

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Cipher Facts

Only three shapes (the ‘C’-shape, the ‘O’-shape, and the hollow triangle shape) within the ciphertext appear twice: everything else appears exactly once. This seems to imply that we are looking at a homophonic cipher, the same cipher technique that the Zodiac Killer used in his Z408 cipher. As a result, it would be impossible to solve such a small homophonic ciphertext unambiguously without a large amount of extra information, or without knowing the cipher key.

Interestingly, because nearly all of the cipher shapes used in the (solved) Z408 cipher key reappear in this cipher, it seems possible that this might do the trick. Unfortunately, applying the Z408 homophonic cipher key to it yields nothing that makes any obvious sense:-

(C) I F E L N I O W H D A (Ω) N G O A
O E S N B X (shaded box) T (C) E T D I E I

Furthermore, solving this (slightly more language-like) cipher as if it were a newspaper cryptogram again seems to yield nonsense, e.g. “dsbelishourtwichthekingmadearses“.

Geography Facts

The Phillips 66 California roadmap scale for “San Francisco And Vicinity” is 1 inch to about 6.4 miles: so the plaintext should presumably contain both a number (for the direction) and a number in inches (i.e. to be multiplied by 6.4 to give a physical distance in miles along that direction).

The reference to magnetic north seems to imply that the bearing was calculated not from the map, but by eye from the peak of Mount Diablo. (Here’s a video panorama taken from the top platform area, and diagrammatic views facing North and facing South.)

People will always have different opinions on anything to do with the Zodiac Killer, but it seems most likely to me that at the top of Mount Diablo he turned his watch round (or rotated an external bezel) so that 12 o’clock faced magnetic North; and then read off the time (or bezel value) that would point to his bomb target of choice. Hence the plaintext part indicating ‘direction’ could easily be something like a time, though some people have concluded that it would be measured in radians.

In 1970, magnetic North for this area fell 15 degrees clockwise of true North: so for example San Francisco (at 256 degrees round from true North) would have been at about 241 degrees clockwise relative to magnetic North, i.e. extremely close to “eight o’clock”. Similarly, San Mateo sits 227 degrees from true North, i.e. 212 degrees from magnetic North, i.e. extremely close to “seven o’clock”.

Claimed Solutions

The most famous claimed solution to the Z32 cipher was by Gareth Penn, who was convinced that the word “radians” held the key, and that the locations of various killings (relative to Mt Diablo) were determined by some kind of mathematical or geometric scheme. However, it seems fairly unlikely that this was correct, and few now believe that the Zodiac Killer followed the precise scheme suggested by Penn.

45 thoughts on “Zodiac Killer Z32

  1. Jim Shilliday on January 31, 2014 at 6:03 am said:

    Hi Nick:

    First impression — I had never seen the “radians” note before, and I didn’t read it as “4” #inches, but as “+” or “&” #inches. The character is looks to me like a downstroke, stop, upstroke, curve around counterclockwise, cross. Unless it’s my imagination, there’s a telling bulge to the right of the downstroke where he went a little “wide-right” on the upstroke. Anyway, that’s how I make a plus sign. Aren’t most people’s 4’s made with downstroke, lift, back to top, down to left and then across?

    I would guess he first wrote “concerns radians and inches along the radians” and then clarified (!) it by inserting the “#” with a caret underneath, i.e., “radians and (number of) inches along the radians.” That would suggest that the “inches” are to be measured along the circumference of some circle.

    Of course, that also assumes that he knew what a radian is. Maybe you’re right that he didn’t know that. Maybe he meant “radius,” in which case the reference would be to some angle and a distance from the origin. On the other hand, he doesn’t know what a radian is but he gets polar coordinates?

    I’m not familiar with the Zodiac history, so no idea if this reading of the note has been considered before.

    Best,
    Jim

  2. Jim Shilliday on January 31, 2014 at 7:51 am said:

    Erm… Wikipedia agrees that it’s a plus sign, so that’s settled 😉
    The implication of not having a “4” in the letter would be that the plaintext contains not only a time (direction) but also a distance.
    But that information could be sent using just a few characters (very roughly, “40-5” would be enough to specify San Francisco).
    So the ciphertext seems relatively long, considering the amount of information needed. The explanation for that could be that he didn’t encipher numerals, so everything is spelled out. If so, likely cribs might be “one” … “twelve”, “twenty” … “fifty”, “minutes”, “inches”. Maybe “hours” as well, although my first impulse would be just to use the minute hand on the map’s “clock” to specify the bearing, e.g. “thirty seven minutes four and one half inches.” Something like that.

  3. Rick A. Roberts on February 14, 2014 at 9:47 am said:

    I am posting a Zodiac Killer item. I believe that I have figured out the meaning of the final eighteen letters of the 408 SYMBOL CIPHER that was sent to three major newspapers on August 01,1969. The letters were; EBEORIETEMETHHPITI . It translates as; ENEOLCESEOESTTECSC or, ENE OL CE SE OUEST TEC SC . This is a civil service school that was started in 1945. The school is the ENA(ECOLE NATIONALE d’administration. It allows French Civil Servants to enter politics and law more easily. The student must complete a 2-part exam. The ENA has had 5,600 French Senior Officials and 2,600 Foreign Officials graduate from it. Many well known people have graduate from this school.
    I believe that the Zodiac Killer may have been one of these graduates. If so, his identity may be obtained with some further research. This is a very interesting case. Let me know what you think. Thank you,
    Rick A. Roberts

  4. , Rick A. Roberts on February 14, 2014 at 10:18 am said:

    After giving some more thought to my posting about the 408 SYMBOL CIPHER, I had another idea about who the Zodiac Killer could be. He might be a disgruntled student or applicant of the school(ENA) who did not finish or get accepted to the elite school. Also, I read that many scientists as well as civil servants, and politicians attended the school.
    When I looked at the ages of known victims, I find that they were from sixteen to twenty-nine years of age. I wonder if this has any correlation with the age of – let’s say high school to college or college grad plus. Maybe this is why the killer selected from this population?
    If one could obtain a list of rejected applicants, or failed students, and or graduates from the ENA from the 1960’s to 1970’s perhaps the Zodiac Killer can be found out. Thank you,
    Rick A. Roberts

  5. , Rick A. Roberts on February 15, 2014 at 3:37 am said:

    I have been researching the identity of the Zodiac Killer. At the end of one paper he identifies himself. It states – ” MY NAME IS – “. This cipher has letters and symbols in it. There are thirteen of these. The circle symbol appears with the letter “B” inside of it. This makes a total of sixteen characters in all. When deciphered it reads; TENDONLONHONRNTH or, TEN DON LON HONRATH. The name DON HONRATH appears. Don Honrath was a musical composer. He composed a musical play for theatre on 27 December, 1935 titled, “LO AND BEHOLD”. I also found that he composed other musical arrangements until the late 1960’s. Was DON HONRATH the Zodiac Killer? Had he attended the ENA ? What do you think about this? Thank you,
    Richard(Rick) A. Roberts

  6. , Rick A. Roberts on February 16, 2014 at 4:09 am said:

    I have been looking at the Z 32 CIPHER – MAP CODE CIPHER- LOCATION OF BOMB. The following is my deciphering of it ; SIFKLNIRWHDS(END)ORTGOESNBXLTSETDIEI . This translates to ; IS IN FRONT LEFT CORNER NEAR WOODS END AND GO ACROSS SAND BOX LIGHTS SET I DIE .
    I am going to try to figure out the mathematical location using radians and degree, minutes, and seconds on the Phillips 66 Map. Truly,
    Richard(Rick) A. Roberts

  7. , Rick A. Roberts on February 18, 2014 at 2:15 am said:

    I have deciphered two more Zodiac Killer messages. The first cipher uses circles(symbols). The first symbol is a filled in circle,next is circle with bottom filled in, third is a circle with left side filled in, fourth is circle with top filled in, fifth is circle with period in center of it, sixth is a circle with line across middle from one side to other side, seventh is circle with line vertically through middle of circle, eighth is circle with “B” in it, ninth is circle with cross centered in it. This message reads, “TADIEHNON= D”. Circle with “B”= ON . This message reads, “THE DAY I DIE ON”. The second part of cipher deciphers to “DEPENDS ALL EYES REST SEE CHANNEL KRNE(KRON TV)”.
    The second cipher is; HEA><OO(circle with line vertically through center)(circle with line horizontally through center)OL<. This cipher reads; "TEWENNNNHNTN". The message is "TWO & FOUR IN HUNTINGTON". Was the claimed twenty-fourth victim of the Zodiac Killer in Huntington Beach, California?
    Rick A. Roberts

  8. , Rick A. Roberts on February 18, 2014 at 2:20 am said:

    I have made a typographical error. The first message reads, “TADIEHNOND”. I accidentally placed an “=” sign in between the last “N” and the last “D”. Thank you,
    Rick A. Roberts

  9. , Rick A. Roberts on February 19, 2014 at 1:47 am said:

    I believe that I have deciphered another short message that followed the two previous messages that I posted. The first character is the outline of a triangle, the second is “T”, third is “/”, fourth is a perpendicular symbol, fifth is “W”, sixth is “B”, and the last one is “I”. This message reads, “ISKREOT”, or “RISKETO” or finally, “RISKY TOO”.
    Rick A. Roberts

  10. , Rick A. Roberts on February 19, 2014 at 2:32 am said:

    Here is an additional four line Zodiac Killer Cipher that I have deciphered. The first line is, “L”, filled in circle, top horizontal filled in circle, “C”, “<", "+", "F", reverse "L", "W". This is, "TTISNESAE", and reads, "SETS IN EAST". The second line is, "C", circle with "+" centered in it, "W", reverse "C", "P", "O", "S", "H", "T". This is, "SDEVINATS", and reads, "FIVE IN SAINT SS". The third line is, "W", "<", triangle with period centered in it, perpendicular symbol, "B", outline of square, "Y", "O", "B", and reads, "ENAROYUNO", or "YOU ARE IN ONE". The fourth line is, "N", reverse "P", reverse "K", "S", circle with "+" centered in it, "Z", "O", filled in triangle, "A", or "NEIADENST". It reads, "END IN EAST". The message is, "SETS IN EAST FIVE IN SAINT SS YOU ARE IN ONE END IN EAST".
    Rick A. Roberts

  11. , Rick A. Roberts on February 19, 2014 at 2:48 am said:

    I think that “SAINT SS”, in the fourth line of the message in the previous cipher that I posted is “SAINT SAN SIMEON”, in California. Thank you,
    Rick A. Roberts

  12. , Rick A. Roberts on February 20, 2014 at 5:38 am said:

    I have been doing some calculations on the Zodiac Killer – Location OF BOMB Map and Letter. Using the drawing on the map, I have set out to calculate the number of radians and inches along the radius on the Phillips 66 Map.
    First took the scale of 1 inch is congruent to 6.4 miles. The previous letter that I posted mentioned “FIVE IN SAINT SS”. I believe that the “FIVE IN” is five inches. This would be the length of arc, which would be 5 inch X 6.4 miles/inch = 32.0 miles. It is 57.9 miles to San Saint Simeon. Using Pythagorean Theorem A(squared) + B(squared) = C(squared) with a right triangle on the map superimposed over the compass/time symbol results in the following; A(squared) = 32.0(squared) + 57.9(squared). The result is A = 48.277759728901181 mi. . The angle of the right triangle is Sin X (Theta, Angle) = 32mi. /57.9mi., sin(Angle) = .55267702936. Arc Sin of ,55267702936 is 33.551 Degrees 0r 0.58557 Radians . Latitude of location of bomb is congruent to 33.551 degrees. Radians travelled along arc is congruent to 0.58557 Radians .
    The Zodiac Killer also instructed to set compass to True North, which I believe I have done, since this would be Geometric Pole or 90 degrees.
    In an earlier post, I posted the deciphered message that read; “YOU ARE IN ONE END IN EAST”. This would position you on East end of the Mount Diablo State Park with a heading of True North. Perhaps someone can use the latitude and radians results to locate the exact location of the bomb that the Zodiac Killer said that he had planted.
    Rick A. Roberts

  13. , Rick A. Roberts on February 20, 2014 at 6:21 am said:

    There is one thing that I forgot to add to my previous post. The Zodiac Killer wrote on the Map of the Bomb Location to set compass to Magnetic North and not True North. You have to allow eighteen degrees for declination of the angle. Magnetic north is the Magnetic Field of the Earth’s Pole. True North is 90 degrees or the Geometric Pole. I learned that these two are 590 feet apart from one another. This will effect calculations.
    Rick A. Roberts

  14. , Rick A. Roberts on February 21, 2014 at 6:43 am said:

    This is in regards to an unrelated cipher. I could not get it to post where I wanted to.
    “WIVE”, posted a cipher under, “Very Difficult Cipher”. It was partially deciphered by “Kachnitara”, on October 26. 2013.
    This partial deciphering read, “IN THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN WHERE WORLDS BREAK DOWN”. I have further deciphered it to, “IN THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE FENCES WHERE WORLDS BREAK DOWN”.
    “WIFE” found a second cipher and posted it also. It read, “MARENYMYIALFGIOACLIUARNIISRF”. I believe that this message is; “IN ARE MY MAGICAL COINS IF YOUR EYES ARE IN FOCUS”.
    The total message is; “IN THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE FENCES WHERE WORLDS BREAK DOWN IN ARE MAGICAL COINS IF YOUR EYES ARE IN FOCUS”. I hope that this helps “WIVE” in some manner.
    Rick A. Roberts

  15. chelsea on March 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm said:

    HE IS COMING BACK EVERBODY HIDE

  16. chelsea on March 19, 2014 at 3:14 pm said:

    im so scared someone help coe to ava !!!

  17. WIVE on April 7, 2014 at 9:46 pm said:

    Rick A. Roberts
    You are the biggest magician of all times for me.
    Thank you for deciphering this text. I lost my hope and here you are.. Thank you so much.

    Can you tell me how did you done that?
    I almost forgot about that text…

  18. , Rick A. Roberts on April 8, 2014 at 6:10 am said:

    Wive,

    I hope that my finished decryption of your text was of help to you. I am curious as to whether you found anything buried between the fences. If there are corner posts, you might try looking around them first using a metal detector with a discriminator to find the coins.
    When I looked at the text of the message that your Grandfather left you, I noticed some words that almost jumped out at me. “ARE”, and “MY”. “N”=”IN”. Some of the words are scrambled in the text also. “MAGICAL”, “IF”, “YOUR”, “IN”, “FOCUS”, “COINS”. “AR”=”ARE”, “II”=”EYES”.
    I enjoy deciphering texts or codes very much. Thank you for your message to me, and have a great week!
    Rick A. Roberts

  19. Odysseus on June 11, 2014 at 10:11 pm said:

    This article says that solving the cipher as if it were a cryptogram yields “dsbelishourtwichthekingmadearses”. Can anyone tell me where this came from? Also you have to unscramble some of these. This one is “The king’s lies made our arses twitch. HBD.” (HBD = happy birthday) Note that “arses” is British slang. Also your last decipher is “If your eyes are in focus, my magical coins are in the boundaries between the fences where world’s break down.” Both are taunting messages. The latter refers to Charon’s Obol. These coins were to pay the ferryman who took souls to the land of the dead – cf. collecting slaves for the afterlife. Saint SS refers to the saint San Simon (see: Maximon) – he was the equivalent of the ferryman in ancient Mayan culture. The killer certainly knew his mythology.

  20. Odysseus on June 12, 2014 at 1:29 am said:

    Now Zodiac was known to use British colloquialisms before, but the British word “arses” stands out and could have deeper meaning. As well as the obvious meaning it’s also the name of an ancient Persian king, which in turn lends itself to a genus of monarch flycatchers (a type of bird). It could be a coincidence in that he mentions “kings” in the same sentence, but the birds connection is interesting. For example, birdwatching is also called twitching; and “twitch” is also a word in this sentence, albeit spelled incorrectly. In one of the Zodiac letters, he writes “Action guide, want Zodiac, watch, FLT. 555, BIRDS FLY SOUTH, hidden magic amulet.” Now “Bird” is slang for “plane”, as well as being British slang for “young woman” – Zodiac often used words with multiple meanings. Monarch Flycatcher could also be a reference to the book Catcher in the Rye in which the protagonist Holden Caulfield asks his cab driver where the ducks go in the winter, and the cab driver thinks he’s crazy – remember the Zodiac also killed a cab driver. Of course this is all sheer speculation. Please take it or leave it as you see fit!

  21. Odysseus on June 12, 2014 at 2:13 am said:

    The reason I mention birds is because the Zodiac does too – in one of his letters he incorrectly quotes the story of a dicky-bird who dies of heartbreak which features in The Mikado, “titwillo, titwillo, titwillo.” Now titwillow is slang for imbecile, and “not a dicky bird” literally means nothing at all – it is British Cockney rhyming slang for “not a word”. Its etymology comes from “dicky”, a pet name for Richard. Maybe Goldcatcher is right and Richard Gaikowski was indeed the Zodiac killer. Coincidentally Gaikowski was born on March 14th exactly one month after Valentine’s Day, the day before the sun transits Pisces, on the anniversary of The Mikado’s debut in London in 1885. He was also involuntarily committed to a Napa State Hospital in 1971 on or around this date. His face matches the sketches, a witness reported that his voice matched that of the Zodiac, but the most damning piece of evidence in my mind is that just before she died Darlene Ferrin told survivor Michael Mageau that the name of the man who had been stalking her and had just pulled up in the car beside them was called “Richard”. He mentions this in the documentary “This is the Zodiac speaking” which is currently on youtube.

  22. Odysseus on June 12, 2014 at 2:43 am said:

    I just realised I tied your unrelated cipher to the Zodiac case. This was a silly mistake! I don’t have the Zodiac ciphers in front of me so I’m taking these translations as given and formulating a theory from memory. Everything else I said should still open to debate. Cheers!

  23. crypto on October 8, 2014 at 2:51 pm said:

    Years ago I ran the Vigene’re cipher on the Zodiac Letters and one letter produced a first name initial, a middle name initial and a last name. I’m just a novice at deciphering codes and was hoping others who are more advanced at this could use this cipher to confirm or deny my findings.

  24. Stuart on April 16, 2015 at 12:45 am said:

    The hollow and full triangles are on the map also the full square and the X is on the map surely that is obvious

  25. Stuart on April 16, 2015 at 1:23 am said:

    The Normal letters are the first letter of the place name so C is a place name then hollow triangle is a beach

  26. TROVEK on June 23, 2015 at 2:42 pm said:

    MY NAME IS…..
    AENz*K*M*tNAM
    NAMAENz*K*M*t
    NAMAENz*K*W*T
    NAMEIMZ(ODIACK) *J*W*T
    NAME I’M ZODIAC J W T (SOLVED)

    Bomb Location (its been a few years)
    SET RADIAN TO ZERO NORTH OF THIRD ROAD

  27. Rick A. Roberts on July 18, 2015 at 4:35 am said:

    SheaStewart Cipher of May, 2015. ” wyyoo kwsyr bavrz eowev ye ” = ” it too width pushy as I owe at a ”
    Rick A. Roberts

  28. C9JI#OK.AMF8?ORTGXFDVJ%HCELZPW9
    (what i decoded, i’m not sure about the percent sign, but i have a theory that the OK. might be oklahma. cordents telling where but i can not figure out the exact stop.)

  29. Gunnar Johannson on September 10, 2015 at 9:22 am said:

    Try bringing up to scale the first letter’s zodiac symbol’s and superimposing it over the map’s zodiac symbols twice over. and all the double symbols. He said the answers there. I’d try if i had a way to check. Maybe check the history of any big explosions in the area or box office flops, musical flops, earthquakes and such and maybe those line up on the map with the street names and/ or historical buildings or names of songs or movies or sets used in those shows.. He could be a big producer eventually and maybe his first direction debut or production was that next year and he quit killing or went underground. . Doesn’t have to be movies though but something with that direction or producer leadership.

  30. Gunnar: it’s true that the Zodiac Killer and “The Producers” both debuted in 1968, but I’m not sure if I can see any other obvious link between the two.

    “Sprrrringtime, for…” 😉

  31. Gunnar Johannson on September 12, 2015 at 6:41 am said:

    Thanks for commenting and I meant after the last letters were mailed so it would of been in late ’71 or ’72 that he got promoted or something happened. For him in music idk if he was a producer or musician. But something in that realm.

  32. Rick A. Roberts-
    Have you ever tried to solve Ricky McCormick’s cipher? This is one of the most interesting to me.

  33. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:14 am said:

    Chris,
    Yes, I do have some work that I did on Rick McCormick’s Cipher. I have never posted this work before, but I will post it later today, 10/5/2015. I am just recovering from heart surgery that I had in September. Thanks very much for your interest.

  34. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:44 pm said:

    Chris,
    I have found some of my work on Rick McCormick’s Cipher. On Page 1 & 2 . I deciphered the following; ” ACSM ” = A SCAM or SCAM . ” fiRST PRSEONDE 71 NCBE ” = FIRST RESP.(RESPOND) ON DE (DECEMBER) 71 IN C.B.E. . ” CDNSE PRSEONSE 74 N CBE ” = SECOND RESP.(RESPOND) ON SE (SEPTEMBER) 74 IN C.B.E. INC. . ” PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) = PART RESPOND DE (DECEMBER) 75 IN C.B.E. . ” HMCRENMREFCBE ” = FRENCH MEMBER . ” 99, 84.5 ” = Dose Levels In Radiodiagnostic Practice ? ” XDRLX ” = Diagnostic Reference Levels . ” NSREONSE ” =NO REASON . ” 651 MTC SEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE ” = 651 MTC THE LENS CUTTER CENTERS . ” SAISTENARSE ” = ARSENIST ? I will post more as I get it untangled. Thanks.

  35. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm said:

    Chris, Rick McCormick’s Cipher. On Page 1 & 2 . I deciphered the following; ” ACSM ” = A SCAM or SCAM . ” fiRST PRSEONDE 71 NCBE ” = FIRST RESP.(RESPOND) ON DE (DECEMBER) 71 IN C.B.E. . ” CDNSE PRSEONSE 74 N CBE ” = SECOND RESP.(RESPOND) ON SE (SEPTEMBER) 74 IN C.B.E. INC. . ” PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) = PART RESPOND DE (DECEMBER) 75 IN C.B.E. . ” HMCRENMREFCBE ” = FRENCH MEMBER . ” 99, 84.5 ” = Dose Levels In Radiodiagnostic Practice ? ” XDRLX ” = Diagnostic Reference Levels . ” NSREONSE ” =NO REASON . ” 651 MTC SEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE ” = 651 MTC THE LENS CUTTER CENTERS . ” SAISTENARSE ” = ARSENIST ? I will post more as I get it untangled. Thanks.

  36. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm said:

    Rick McCormick’s Cipher. On Page 1 & 2 . I deciphered the following; ” ACSM ” = A SCAM or SCAM . ” fiRST PRSEONDE 71 NCBE ” = FIRST RESP.(RESPOND) ON DE (DECEMBER) 71 IN C.B.E. . ” CDNSE PRSEONSE 74 N CBE ” = SECOND RESP.(RESPOND) ON SE (SEPTEMBER) 74 IN C.B.E. INC. . ” PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) = PART RESPOND DE (DECEMBER) 75 IN C.B.E. . ” HMCRENMREFCBE ” = FRENCH MEMBER . ” 99, 84.5 ” = Dose Levels In Radiodiagnostic Practice ? ” XDRLX ” = Diagnostic Reference Levels . ” NSREONSE ” =NO REASON . ” 651 MTC SEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE ” = 651 MTC THE LENS CUTTER CENTERS . ” SAISTENARSE ” = ARSENIST ? I will post more as I get it untangled. Thanks.

  37. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:48 pm said:

    Chris, Here is some of my effort on Rick McCormick’s Cipher. On Page 1 & 2 . I deciphered the following; ” ACSM ” = A SCAM or SCAM . ” fiRST PRSEONDE 71 NCBE ” = FIRST RESP.(RESPOND) ON DE (DECEMBER) 71 IN C.B.E. . ” CDNSE PRSEONSE 74 N CBE ” = SECOND RESP.(RESPOND) ON SE (SEPTEMBER) 74 IN C.B.E. INC. . ” PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) = PART RESPOND DE (DECEMBER) 75 IN C.B.E. . ” HMCRENMREFCBE ” = FRENCH MEMBER . ” 99, 84.5 ” = Dose Levels In Radiodiagnostic Practice ? ” XDRLX ” = Diagnostic Reference Levels . ” NSREONSE ” =NO REASON . ” 651 MTC SEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE ” = 651 MTC THE LENS CUTTER CENTERS . ” SAISTENARSE ” = ARSENIST ? I will post more as I get it untangled. Thanks.

  38. Rick A. Roberts on October 5, 2015 at 8:50 pm said:

    Chris, Here is some of my effort . On Page 1 & 2 . I deciphered the following; ” ACSM ” = A SCAM or SCAM . ” fiRST PRSEONDE 71 NCBE ” = FIRST RESP.(RESPOND) ON DE (DECEMBER) 71 IN C.B.E. . ” CDNSE PRSEONSE 74 N CBE ” = SECOND RESP.(RESPOND) ON SE (SEPTEMBER) 74 IN C.B.E. INC. . ” PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) = PART RESPOND DE (DECEMBER) 75 IN C.B.E. . ” HMCRENMREFCBE ” = FRENCH MEMBER . ” 99, 84.5 ” = Dose Levels In Radiodiagnostic Practice ? ” XDRLX ” = Diagnostic Reference Levels . ” NSREONSE ” =NO REASON . ” 651 MTC SEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE ” = 651 MTC THE LENS CUTTER CENTERS . ” SAISTENARSE ” = ARSENIST ? I will post more as I get it untangled. Thanks.

  39. Rick A. Roberts on October 19, 2015 at 3:41 am said:

    Here are some more deciphered messages of the Zodiac Killer that I have worked on. LOCATION OF BOMB – Cipher reads, “TRIANGLE SHAPE”, “G”, “O”, “^”, “l”, “K”, “.I”, “+”. This deciphers to, “I, A, N, N, C,S,IN, E”, or “IS IN A CASE”. “>”, “U”, “Z”, “/”, “O with Period in center of it”, “O”.This deciphers to, “E, I, E, K, E, N”, or “KEYS IN”. “+”, “t”, “+”, “O with vertical line through it”, “9”. This deciphers to, “E, O, E, N, 9”, or “ENEONE” = “ANYONE”.

  40. I know what the 32 cipher says
    It talks of placing something on the map shown to a place north of the limited map shown (near Vallejo)
    Then the Z killer emblem lined up with mag north will mark the spot

  41. Rick A. Roberts on February 8, 2016 at 12:15 am said:

    See my message of February 16, 2014 for the deciphered Z32 Cipher .

  42. bdid1dr on May 27, 2016 at 7:08 pm said:

    @ Nick and Rick:

    The Zodiac Killer’s daughter went to New York City’s Medical Examiner/Morgue (about five years ago) to return her derelict father’s remains to the family’s burial plot in California. Because his daughter (and her mother) met with us (about twenty years ago) and we all exchanged our “horror-stories” of life with that lunatic, we all agreed that we would not put ourselves in danger by meeting ever again as long as he was alive.
    Please, let the Zodiac Killer “R.I.P” (rest in peace).

  43. Rick A. Roberts on May 29, 2016 at 3:05 am said:

    bdid1dr,

    Have you ever looked at Donna Lass, Sandy Betts on the internet ? Much of my work on the Zodiac Killer Ciphers are posted there. I have thought for some time now that there were four persons involved in the Zodiac Killer Enigma.

  44. bdid1dr on May 29, 2016 at 2:19 pm said:

    @ Rick : Only two — a radioman on the Ticonderoga during the battle of Tonkin Bay — who received an honorable/medical discharge. Previous to his enlistment, he and his buddy would ride their motorcycles to Lake Herman to do ‘wheelies’. The “Zodiac’s” first murder occurred at Lake Herman.

    The police officer (Sergeant?) who was in charge of the murders investigation died before he was able to solve the crimes. His records/files of the unsolved mystery were sent to the California “State Police”. As far as I know — it is still an open/unsolved case.

  45. derustzelve on August 30, 2017 at 9:14 pm said:

    Hey, here a shout from me to help us along, out of the woods or in to the quagmire:

    With a little imagination one can see the words
    CALIFORNIA MAP NORTH or something along those lines in the first line
    and OF and INCHES the lower one. Anyone else fonds that credible? Or totally not?

    My imagination doesnt stretch further than that but maybe one of you can follow up on it.

    GL

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