Beale Papers

In 1885, a short pamphlet was published containing a strangely compelling story – a kind of cross between Edgar Allan Poe and the Wild West. It claimed to record a letter written in 1822 by a Thomas Jefferson Beale to a Mr Morriss, which in turn claimed to contain three encoded texts (now known as ‘B1’, ‘B2’, and ‘B3’) describing the location and beneficiaries of a huge treasure haul hidden in Bedford County, Virginia during 1819 and 1821. The pamphlet included a decoding of B2 (using a slightly miscounted Declaration of Independence as a codebook), but nothing for B1 and B3.

It should be no surprise that since then, countless Beale treasure hunters have trawled the historical archives for references to the people involved (but with relatively little success), hunted for texts that might have been used as the codebooks for B1 and B3 (also with little success), and have raked over Bedford County with old maps, metal detectors, and occasionally digging machines (similarly unsuccessfully).

Was the whole thing no more than a scam to make money from printing the pamphlet? Many think so – and yet there are many statistical aspects of B1 that make it look as though it was created in a very similar way to B2. In fact, the most mysterious aspect of all (as first noted by well-known historical codebreaker Jim Gillogly) is that if you use the same miscounted Declaration of Independence as the codebook for B1, you end up with some extraordinarily improbable text sequences, for example ABFDEFGHIIJKLMMNOHPP.

Personally, I think this indicates that B1 is a real codetext, and perhaps even that a differently-miscounted version of the Declaration of Independence was used to encode it (though with a simple cipher applied to it too). For more on Gillogly’s discussion click here, and (my follow-up post) here.

For the full text of the ciphers and (alleged) letters, go to a dedicated Beale Papers transcription page on the Cipher Foundation’s website.

92 thoughts on “Beale Papers

  1. Nick,

    Scam. The “Beale” papers were one of hundreds of “treasure maps” that were being sold from the east coast of the US, all the way to the gold fields of the west coast. The treasure maps/diaries were also being sold at every port of departure to the gold fields of California. Some ports were as far away as China and Australia.

    The Beale papers were the most tedious writings I have ever attempted to read entirely. I failed the entirety phase.

    If you’re at all interested in California’s side of various stories, you might enjoy the “Sons of the Golden West” website, which has an archive of ships passenger lists from “all over”.

    Just a thought — as far finding more “cipher-mysteries” and possibly add “whodunnits” to your pages?

  2. Kenneth Bauman on December 28, 2012 at 6:43 am said:

    Perhaps I have solved the Beale Papers cryptogram B1.

    In July of 2005, I cracked B1 and can report this information concerning it. Please study it carefully.

    I have a decipherment of B1. It’s short…only the first 16 coded numbers substitute out to a plaintext of directions on where to dig (even if a treasure does not exist). I have read the Gillogly paper and agree that the majority of the cryptogram is random numbers….I think the Gillogly string was injected into the selection of random choices to throw off later cryptanalysts and further hide the first 16 characters. B2 was fraught with error and I think that B1 was created by the author of the pamphlet after B2; B1 being short and sweet because the encoder was probably tired of counting letters in the DOI which is the key to B1. The DOI is applied in a special manner to B1 and the short plaintext appears as follows:
    ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE
    Ere is a variation of the word ear which means to plow. Fen is a low land or spot. Due means exactly. Red Knee is likely the name of a spot that is currently unknown to me and to other apparently as I have published this plaintext in two newspaper articles in hopes to locate red knee.
    The original pamplet DOI is the key to B1 (to arrive at my decipherment). DOI word #111 in the original pamplet is “their” instead what it should be: “these”. And, between words #154 and #155 (institute and new) is inserted (incorrectly) the word: “a”. These two mistakes in the original pamplet are necessary to arrive at my decipherment.
    My small error in determining word #71 I believe was the same error committed by the author of B1. Word #70 was mistakingly thought to be “separation” and therefore the word “we” was selected as word #71. When you come to encoded #76, commit the same error (logically).
    Run this by selecting the LAST letter of each word for the first 16 encoded numbers. Place a question mark for encoded numbers over 1322 (there are two). Reverse the order of letters selected and arrive at:
    ere fen d?e red ?nee
    Perhaps you have found the one “K” that ends the word “mock” in the original pamphlet DOI; I think it’s word #697 (not sure right now about this). The author of B1 could have selected the word “mock” to indicate a “K” for “knee”. The only other letter that could be selected by the future cryptanalyst is “s” for “snee” (no other english words end with nee). Snee is a word in the dictionary, but does not make sense in a final plaintext. Likewise, the “U” makes the most sense for the final plaintext and “U” does not appear as the final letter of any word in the DOI. Because these letters were not located by the author of B1 in the DOI, he selected ecoded numbers for the cryptogram over 1322 to indicate that some extra work would be necessary to fill in the gaps. This theory seems to make the most sense. Therefore, ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE jumps right out at you; this does not seem to be coincidence or anything but an intended message….especially since the plaintext is backwards!
    James Gillogly’s paper: The Beale Cipher: A Dissenting Opinion (on line). This paper indicates a string of letters that indicate that the pamphlet DOI is the key to B1, but that B1 MAY also be a hoax. Well, most of the cryptogram is a hoax except for the well hidden ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE. I am not concerned about the error I made with word #71 as there were many errors in the encipherment of B2 as well.

    The plaintext is very short and to the point. If one finds red knee, one digs at the low spot and perhaps finds what is hidden? Is there a treasure? I don’t know for sure. What I do know is that a message was placed in B1 and this is a huge find.

    Red Knee was later identified as the tarantula that curiously attaches to Edgar Allan Poe’s tale The Gold Bug. We are lead to The Gold Bug to search out a hidden secretly written missive within the tale that leads to a mansion in Philadelphia. Actually this mansion is thought to represent “Buford’s Tavern” in the Beale Papers and within “four miles” from this mansion tavern is another site (another mansion) in Germantown where the Beale Treasure was hidden in the 18th century. In urns atop the roof about “six feet below the level of the ground”…the ground being the lightning rod tip on the roof. The urns, there were five of them on the roof and were destroyed. Today the urns that adorn this mansion called Cliveden, are reproductions. The five urns were thought to have contained the gold, silver and jewels hinted to in the Beale Papers tale.

    Through research of 18 years, it became apparent that there are multiple sites of suspected hidden wealth. Philadelphia is just one location. Virginia is also a State that likely has Beale wealth hidden…this project is spearheaded by others and they seem to be quite successful to date.

  3. Kenneth: I don’t really know what to say. It’s plain as day that you sincerely believe that you’ve solved B1, yet your solution seems not to satisfy any objective cryptanalytical metric. For one, “ERE FEN D?E RED ?NEE” is so overwhelmed by E’s (7 E’s, 7 consonants, 2 unknowns) that it is very hard for me (at least) to see it as a real message rather than an arbitrary series of word-final letters. For another, I’m quite sure that the presence of the (in)famous Gillogly strings indicates that real cryptography is in play in B1, rather than a load of hoaxery. And for another, B2 says exactly what B1 and B3 contain: so your “ERE FEN…” string doesn’t match the rest of the papers.

    But that’s just my own super-rational opinion, and you probably know all that already: and if your cryptic string turns out to be a clue that leads you to treasure in Cliveden and elsewhere, then I’m cool with that too. 🙂

  4. Kenneth Bauman on December 29, 2012 at 6:35 am said:

    Nick…thank-you for responding.

    More accurately, I feel I have cracked B1; there may be more hidden within it I now feel is likely. ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE is immediate and backwards enciphered. It seems to be a separate pointer to a direction other than what may be more thoroughly addressed in the body of the cipher (I will address this soon). Anyway, the plain text phrase is the basis or jumping point to lead to Cliveden via Mount Pleasant mansion in Philadelphia. Mount Pleasant is indirectly referenced in a cryptic secret writing in Poe’s tale The Gold Bug lead to by a tarantula (Red Knee). A direct line from “Red Knee” to the “tarantula” in the tale.

    Concerning Cliveden:

    The man who recreated the urns from the pieces of the originals and is closely associated with Cliveden said to me in his statement that the urns very likely could have held wealth as they had a vault in each of them. He made this statement which may be a treasure in itself; study why he would have made this statement; know what is behind this statement…read between the lines as one must do with the Beale Papers:

    “Diamonds in the soles of her urns”

    View these urns here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cliveden_front_roof.jpg

    ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE lies underneath the wider view of the encrypted B1:

    Study carefully.

    Ron Gervais publishes on his site: (Google) BEALE CIPHERS ANALYSES (view page 26 item 6).

    Once you’ve looked at the material, know that “the small island” referred to is Machias Seal Island in the Bay of Fundy northeast of Maine.

    Is a Freemasonry secret known of the 13th Degree: Royal Arch of Enoch (or Knights of The Ninth Arch) ? Does Machias Seal Island represent the subterranean cavern of this Freemasonry group?

    Does the Beale Papers lead us, in a complicated way, to Machias Seal Island which is disputed heavily for ownership by the US and Canada?

    A well known thesaurus by Roget indicates in its 1000 entries that #666 is defined as a refuge or hiding place. Does Machias Seal Island have any reference to 666? Let’s see…

    “Ninth Arch”… nine, hmmm.

    Call up a map of the eastern seaboard.

    Run an approximate straight line from the DC monument (obelisk) to Machias Seal Island. Note this:

    The near exact straight line from DC, Wilmington, Philadelphia, Trenton, NYC (statue of liberty), Bridgeport, New Haven, Boston to MSI is a line that intersects these cities (no more, no less) and the line contains exactly NINE points DC through Machias Seal Island.

    Want more?…

    Statute miles from DC to Machias Seal Island is almost exactly 666. Wow?!

    Want more…?

    DC to Philadelphia (statute miles) is right at 133.16. Philadelphia to Bridgeport is right at 133.16. Bridgeport to Boston is right at 133.16. Boston to MSI is right at 266.5. This is 666 statute miles. Curiously convenient. 666 statute miles from DC is MSI (or Machias Seal Island).

    Does the distance of 133 and the “Lost Book of Enoch” have anything to do with the fact that Dan Brown’s book “The Lost Symbol” has exactly an unusual number of chapters being 133 and a grand subject being the DC monument (the obelisk)? Does the height of the obelisk in DC reflect a reference to the distance from DC to MSI? Let’s see…

    Washington monument (obelisk) is approximately 555.5 feet high, but is actually about 583.5 feet high from sea level. So the spire from sea level reaches high about 583.5 feet. So, the monument is actually right at 583.5 feet high.

    Why was the monument built at such a specific height? Why?

    583.5 feet was a code to be transformed. If one looks at 583.5 feet as STATUTE MILES instead…what do we have? Well, 583.5 statute miles from DC on the line to MSI falls short of the island. Hmmm.

    What if we consider 583.5 feet to be NAUTICAL MILES instead of feet? In other words, the height of the monument is coded to mean 583.5 nautical miles…

    To transform nautical miles to statute miles one multiplies by 8 and divides by 7 for a near approximation of statute miles. So…

    583.5 nautical miles multiplied by 8 and then divided by 7 equals …. yes, 666.85714 statute miles !! Mathematics does not lie.

    The distance therefore from DC to MSI (in statute miles) was intended to be almost exactly 666 to indicate that MSI is a refuge or hiding place of something. Lafitte?

    The Beale Papers code #1 as was previously outlined in the Ron Gervais site is an itinerary to MSI and represents only one facet of what is hidden in the Beale Papers. There are other people working to uncover other sites of hidden wealth which are hidden in the confines of Beale. I, myself, have other locations that the ciphers indicate that treasure is hidden. MSI is only one site.

    The Beale Papers is a massive coded miracle.

    Let’s not ignore the elephant in the drawing room…”7 e’s and 7 consonants and two unknowns”? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and bends over to avoid being hit…then it’s duck. The ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE “key” energizes many tumblers “probable facts” that are simply impossible to validate. Too bad.

    kabauman86@hotmail.com

  5. Kenneth Bauman on December 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm said:

    Response delay is understood, I’ve delivered a great deal to study.

    It seems that “objective cryptanalytical metric” stymies other more subjective methods of hiding information. Seems to me that the “objective” side must admit and deal with its counterpart. After all, cryptography and steganography (literary types) are related and therefore must interact. To treat one like it’s not like itself is to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Seems to me.

    Anyway, I’ll await and welcome your thoughts on my last post; there is more to be known.

    “National (Beale) Treasure….At Red Knee”

  6. Ken: I suspect you’re bouncing your questions off the wrong person here, because I don’t really recognize anything of what you describe as cryptography or steganography (and I’ve seen a large amount of both).

    Having said that, I also failed to recognize anything in David Ovason’s recent “Shakespeare’s Secrete Booke: Deciphering Magical and Rosicrucian Codes” as cryptography or steganography (he focuses on the number “33” rather than “666” as you do). So perhaps there’s a whole body of work out there that’s simply fated to remain invisible to me.

  7. Kenneth Bauman on December 30, 2012 at 10:43 pm said:

    Nick…

    No more questions.

    It seems dangerous and irresponsible for the “objective cryptanalytical metric” community to ignore or render “invisible” an elusive, ethereal method of secret writing as, if I’m not mistaken, steganography (hidden within hidden) is a term that falls under the main category of cryptography. Therefore, “don’t really recognize” and “remain invisible” are phrases that seem to be quite costly.

    Costly in that failing to “recognize” the miasma, the non-cryptography, not only curiously overprotects the Beale Papers and may just reach to other levels of failing to do the right thing…which is left to the imagination. Then again perhaps, and this is a long shot, just maybe, someone doesn’t want the Beale Papers to be solved.
    OK, I seem to be the only one that purports a solution of this nature…I against the masses. Then again, maybe David Ovason is a like minded individual. I do appreciate you offering the information on his new book. However, I do not let you, if I may say so, off the hook as a cryptanalyst to engage your expertise in a world that one should engage themselves in. After all, the truth is paramount…right?

    If I may say so myself, what I’ve done with the Beale Papers, even if it is not an exact solution in the end, has been quite extraordinary…not unlike spewed (and I mean oozed out information from the cracks of cryptography) information from a true prodigious savant. The mere fact that what has emerged is testament for a form of recognition.

    I don’t want to hear what can’t be…only what can be…and then discuss it. I see clearly what is going on …and this will be left to the imagination for now.

  8. Ronald Stokes on January 2, 2013 at 9:55 pm said:

    The Beale code is a classic case of misdirection. The answer to the enigma is in the “mistakes.” An analysis of the errors deciphering code 2 are very revealing. In the appendix to my book, “The Jefferson Mysteries, Declaration of Independence” I present a logical argument that the code was written by Beverly Hemings in response to his father’s hypocrisy.

  9. Ronald: as I’m sure you already know, Beale cryptologists such as Jim Gillogly have managed to lay bare precisely how unintentional errors in the enciphering of B2 caused the differences. Hence I’d be extremely surprised if there were sufficient wiggle room left beyond those errors to encipher much of a message. I do feel I ought to repeat my earlier question about which bits of your book are historical fact and which bits are historical fiction: without knowing that, it’s a stretch for me to even consider a link between the (real-life) Beale Papers and the (real-life) Beverly Hemings, never mind invest time and effort in trying to evaluate it.

  10. Kenneth Bauman on January 3, 2013 at 6:06 pm said:

    Nick…what do you make of this plain text, dictional content is unusual but coherrent enough; let’s discuss and then I’ll reveal the cipher…thanks:

    “By reason of most promising human beings, our wish to become greater those nearby
    qualities, rise power to dominate, not ever to cease to exist; yet to the same degree, by
    that one who slashes shall, through the agency of a definite portion of duration, die; he of
    delicate quality, who takes or displays the qualities of some forerunner, may show visibly him,
    one who is remembered, that you cause to draw together near, your belonging
    quickwitted attentive observations. Nourish you mental or spiritual insight’s ardor
    from an individual considered as a subject of his own consciousness and of real
    worth and importance; whatever sustains or heightens emotions contributes
    to improvement any dearth to a situation to which a plentiful or overflowing supply exists.
    You! your enemy aiming at your gentle and winning qualities, any attribute, more than
    sufficiently causing mental or physical suffering. You, as a result, are at once the universe’s
    newly received person regarded as a source of honor or credit, as well as, for one purpose alone,
    bearer of important news directed toward that garish cause to happen. Interiorly your, to the
    exclusion of others, immaturity conceals your subject matter; moreover, yielding easily to a rude or
    surly person causes devastation within the confines of parsimony. Grief or pain awakened in that
    human inhabitants of the earth, either in a different time or place, that is near or present,
    actual or in thought, one who has a great capacity is intending to consume that mankind’s
    attribution through the agency of that end and final loss to you.”

  11. Leandro on January 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm said:

    B1 text uses numbers higher than 1322 for a character representation, this one was not craked directly from the Declaration of Independece. So what other famous text could it be? it necessary must have more than 2906 words…

  12. STAN CLAYTON on February 28, 2013 at 8:01 pm said:

    I have been amused over the years by the laughsble ideas and elaborate proofs put forward to sell more books re the beale pamplets i think the lipstick cross on the rocks was the best so far, anyway ive decided to finish off the whole saga im putting the plot number and grave name on the internet on july 4 2013 and the method of getting it, the grave name is hidden in my book so i can prove ive had it all these years my decodes prove Poe wrote it first, his name is in it and OPQRSTof Gillogy fame is decoded Stan Clayton

  13. STAN CLAYTON on March 7, 2013 at 8:20 pm said:

    hurry up and get yor books published on the Beale treasure before the forth of july thats unless some one finds the name of the grave and plot letters from my book BEALE TREASURE MAP TO CIPHER SUCCESS.AS IM SURE REVELATIONS WILL FINISH OFF THE BEALE STORIES, I FEEL SURE SOME OF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE GRAVE NAME AS NO ONES ASKED ME FOR IT,Stan Clayton

  14. Paul Stewart on April 16, 2013 at 2:32 am said:

    Ken is close is all I can say. I actually have solved the “ciphers” and all I will say at this point is that the “given” portion of the ciphers, the numbers, are not the entirety of the ciphers (if you can call them that)- all of the narrative is just as important to cracking the code- and I can concretely say- there is no treasure- so put the shovels down. Also, none of the frequency (or lack of), is remotely important either. 133…yes indeed- .what is the Gematrian Value of “The Beale Papers”?

  15. Paul Stewart on April 16, 2013 at 2:35 am said:

    All of the errors are purposeful, in fact, the errors themselves are the back doors.

  16. Kenneth Bauman on April 30, 2013 at 5:19 am said:

    Paul Stewart…”The Beale Papers” gem atria = 133.

    Interesting.

    Why do you think “there is no treasure”?

    Write me.

    kabauman86@hotmail.com

  17. Duncan Walters on October 23, 2013 at 10:17 pm said:

    Using the technique as explained by Stan Clayton in his book, I deciphered part of C1 as follows:

    “THE PLACE WE BURIED GOLD CAN BE LOCATED BY GOING NORTH WHERE A MONUMENT STANDS BEFORE
    WALKING A DISTANCE OF FIVE HUNDRED STEPS WEST”

  18. Duncan Walters on October 25, 2013 at 9:11 pm said:

    Paul.
    Coincidentally, the Gematrian value of “EDGAR ALLEN POE” is
    also 133.

  19. matt reid on November 2, 2013 at 1:58 pm said:

    ill tell you all this. You are over looking everything and wrong. and will leave you with this if you can make sense of it then maybe you can beat me to virginia
    liberty to the do justice the not for and form herein or

  20. Matt: good luck with that, send me a (virtual) postcard when you’ve recovered the treasure and we’ll all celebrate for you. 🙂

  21. Kenneth Bauman on November 3, 2013 at 10:38 pm said:

    What’s interesting with all the obelisks/high monuments on the “Royal Arch” or “rainbow” displayed here:

    Mexico City, Mexico

    New Orleans, LA

    Atlanta, GA

    DC

    Wilmington, DE

    Philadelphia, PA

    Trenton, NJ

    Edison, NJ

    New York, NY

    Bridgeport, CT

    New Haven, CT

    Boston, MA

    Machias Seal Island

    *****************

    Some interesting text:

    Then, and only then, shall we see the place where, “the wicked shall cease from troubling, and the weary shall be at rest. From the bowels of Mt. Moriah, there shall come a terrible rumble, and the true name of the Most High God, shall be revealed to all that are around the throne. The Master Mason shall throw away his “substitute” and the Royal Arch Masons will no longer need Three times Three to repeat that which has been found, and all of Heaven shall exclaim, “Holiness to the Lord, Holiness to the Lord, Holiness to the Lord!”

    One greater than Solomon is here! A new High Priest has offered up to the Great “I AM!”

  22. Paul Stewart on November 15, 2013 at 12:08 pm said:

    I contribute here extremely sporadically…and as others may know I make the claim like so many others that I’ve solved the TBPs- but other than publishing my own book, what or who could I turn to to have someone review it prior to prove it? Would James Gillogly be open to reviewing it or is he simply burnt out on the subject?

  23. Paul Stewart: Jim Gillogly is definitely still active (he and I exchanged emails about a novel transposition cipher a month or two back, and you may have heard of the 2008 book “Decoding The IRA” to which he contributed the cryptological analyses). As with most crypto guys, if your decryption involves gematria, extensive anagramming, previously unknown backslang, or a polyglot mix of revealed languages (all things I’ve seen claimed in the past, *sigh*), he’s probably not going to be hugely interested. 😉 But if not, dropping him a line would probably be a good idea. Feel free to email me ( nickpelling@nickpelling.com ) for his contact details.

  24. Paul Stewart on January 16, 2014 at 4:54 am said:

    Thanks Nick-

    Would you be interested in reviewing my work? I could stick something in the mail if you are or send you a small sample via email to show you what I’ve found- and its bulletproof.

    I did indeed speak with Mr. Gillogly. He suggested submitting a paper for Cryptologia however the formatting requirements of the journal are next to impossible to conform to and keep to the spirit of my proof…as most are quite large…so not sure what to do.

    In a nutshell however- Joe Nickell was right. The culprit was a Freemason, but its not enough to simply say the TBP are Masonic allegory. Its far more than that. Freemasonry defines itself as a “peculiar system of morality veiled in allegory and expressed through symbols”….and this is exactly what the Beale Papers are; there are no mistakes, the location of every number in relation to other numbers is critical. Durations, years, amounts, etc- all contribute to the allegory. The trick is knowing what the allegory alludes to.

    My fear however is that the answers are not what people expect them to be as Masonic allegory isn’t necessarily narrative in form.

  25. Paul: please feel free to email (or indeed physically mail) whatever Beale-related stuff you like to me. I’ll email you separately.

    As you’d expect, having (of course) looked in some depth at Freemasonry over the years (it’s one of those perennial subjects), I’d be somewhat surprised if it was behind the Beale Papers – they’re not obviously ritualistic, they’re public, there is no mention of anything in the booklet obviously relating to Freemasonry, etc etc.

  26. Paul Stewart on January 21, 2014 at 2:57 am said:

    Nick- I sent you a very small smattering this weekend of what I’ve uncovered as well as a quicky explanation as to why Freemasonry, and a very specific branch of Freemasonry, was responsible for crafting the Beale Papers.

    As I stated earlier, people expect and assume only a narrative answer is possible and perhaps have not even contemplated that there could be a different conclusion. There is the unwarranted expectation that at some point someone will unlock the code, replace the numbers with letters and viola…a readable message. Its an assumption which has resulted in a thousand dead-ends because its incorrect.

    I believe when I first posted on this site (in which I claimed to have unlocked the ciphers), the immediate (and logical) response was; how could I explain the Gillogly strings? Actually, its quite simple. Gillogly was right on target by using the DOI for C1. What does using the DOI on C1 actually illuminate? A series of English letters in alphabetic order; A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, I, J, K, L, M- but is that really the entirety of what was uncovered with the discovery of the string?

  27. Kenneth Bauman on January 22, 2014 at 9:59 am said:

    Excellent post Paul.

    What would or could be determined if the longest Gillogly string had been enciphered backwards…would this be significant and, if so, why?

    The “different conclusion” may be the “ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE” and it was enciphered backwards… !

    The spider…it leads to “The Gold Bug” …something hidden within the tale. The Gold Bug intimates the forthcoming of the Beale Papers by text within the tale forshadowing this treasure story.

    When we converse, I may have a good contact for you.

  28. Kenneth Bauman on January 22, 2014 at 10:04 am said:

    Check out the Youtube video by Googling “Seeling Beale’s Treasure Youtube” …the spider? Why did Poe include a “tarantula” in the beginning of The Gold Bug tale if not for a reason?

  29. Paul Stewart on February 1, 2014 at 2:03 pm said:

    What the string tells a researcher is that yes, the DOI is indeed the correct document to have used to decipher C1, even though it doesn’t provide letters for 100% of the cipher numbers. The ability to create the string and yet find nothing else is certainly confusing, but its not the entirety of what is illuminated by using the DOI- and this is important to recognize. Only the Beale-version of the DOI will illuminate both the string as well as the10 numbers which cannot be converted to letters- and these 10 numbers are actually more important than the string.

  30. Paul Stewart: I take the fact that some numbers are (apparently) out of range for the DOI to mean that the encrypting mechanism used for the rest is somehow incomplete map, and that these out-of-range numbers are somehow ‘addenda’ for out-of-range letters that aren’t covered by the map.

    For instance, if the DOI alphabet is somehow mapped 1-to-1 to a keyphrase that includes a few (say, 5 or 6) repeated letters, then the encipherer ends up 5 or 6 letters short in the overall cipher alphabet, and would hence need a handful of extra (and out of range) numbers to encipher any unmapped letters.

    I’d therefore agree that these out of range numbers are important, because (in my opinion) they probably encipher rare letters sitting at the end of the alphabet (say, V/W/X/Y/Z). But I’m not currently aware of any other logical inferences that you can draw from these letters, is there a web-page or book I should have read on this subject?

    But I really don’t think that the B2 version of the DOI is exactly the same as the B1 version of the DOI, because there are too many T’s in the plaintext you get, which in a dictionary letter cipher would normally be a giveaway that you’ve slipped out of sync with the dictionary numbering.

  31. Paul Stewart on February 8, 2014 at 1:31 am said:

    Sorry, I’m being cryptic… what I’m saying is the DOI was/is indeed the document to decode C1. The string of letters confirms this fact, which places the 10 numbers too large to receive a letter value in a strange spot. People assume they stand for letters when in fact the numbers are the entirety of the message and the key to understanding the location of the treasure.

    The mistake everyone makes is assuming the information in the Ciphers is arbitrary- that you can make line breaks wherever you need to when copying down the numbers. This is a fatal mistake. Instead, place the numbers in spread sheet form, beginning and ending each line of the original cipher exactly as it was originally printed. Do this and the ten numbers now have locations within the grid and can produce an entirely new set of values. Its these values which are the key to solving C1. The same is true for C2 (which hasn’t been solved) and C3. The DOI works for all three- making the TBP a closed-loop.

  32. Rick A. Roberts on February 14, 2014 at 4:34 am said:

    I am very interested in The Beale Treasure and the “B3” Paper. After several days, I came up with my own deciphering of the “3” Paper.
    I have deciphered it as such; INSIDE THE VAULT SILVER COINS AND GOLD COINS – ALL THE VAUTS AREE BURIED NEXTO A LARGE SHAL(SHALE) ROCK & CAVE LOCAL N UPPER EAST V(VIRGINIA) E(AND) CSTER(CHESTER?) DAYVEE(DAVIES?) STATUR(STATURE?) TO VON DIN MISN(MISSION) DS(DOES) LET REGGIE EAS(EASON?) NAIL BOX AT CEEY(CITY LENS or HOLE LENS VIRGINIA?) ELNS(E.L.N.s’) GOLD COINS V(FIVE) R(ARE) N(IN) A BED N(IN) A TUNNEL – LET A PAIL – GABBRIELLS LG(LARGE) GOLD N(IN) V(FIVE) RED HUE POT OF THIN IRON POTS SO E(AND) TOO V(FIVE) GUESSES N(AND) SEE OATHS A SWOON(SWORN) W(WHEN) A(ALL) THE AUS(GOLD’S) DUE & AR(OUR) BOXES CHEST AR(ARE) – C(SEE) V(FIVE) MEN AS HDS R(ARE) WITH N RATS C(SEE) RE(ARE) VAULT N(IN) & C(SEE) MEN – AND AS PEOPLE CONQUER EQUIO REQUEST V(FIVE) MEN N(AN) AX R(ARE) FLTENOW(FLAT TEN NOW) OF JEWELS GEMS E(AND)VAULTS OF COINS IN HEAVY IVY I SEE ARRS(OURS) – LLS BOX – TAENIE(SMALL, EMPTY UNTIL NOW) VAULTS OF COINS GOLD BARS ANDUMP(AND DUMP) SNUG AL(ALL SNUG) – ONLY SAE(SAY) ARRS(OURS) IS INASH( IN ASH? or IN NASH) NEVRMORE(NEVERMORE) – THEE(THE) HEAVY ON/NEL(ONE) TOSS C(100) HOT JEWELS OUT – ALL OF BEALISTEN (BEALE LIST TEN) MENEED(MEN NEED) MADE OR ATHEAVY( AT THE HEAVY) ON REQUEST OF JOE R CONN – TODAY I AGE OLD THOMAS J BEALS(BEALES) LAST BOW CASH JEWELS.
    This has been an exciting undertaking for me and I think that someone could put this to good use in locating The Beale Treasure. Syntax has to be looked at when deciphering the “B3” Paper. There are some names, locations, and abbreviations mentioned that need to further researched also. I hope that someone will soon make a new search for the unfound Beale stash! Thanks very much.
    Rick A. Roberts

  33. , Rick A. Roberts on February 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm said:

    I made a typo in the second line. It should read; “ALL THE VAULTS…”. Thanks.
    Rick A. Roberts

  34. Paul Stewart on February 18, 2014 at 2:20 am said:

    Well…I’ve made two overtures to Crytologia to publish my entire Beale Proof…provided they tell me how I can conform my proof to their publishing guidelines. I’ve gotten emails stating they’ve gotten my query..but no answer. At this point I dare them to let me publish….

  35. , Rick A. Roberts on February 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm said:

    Paul,
    What do you think of my deciphering of The Beale Treasure “3” Paper that I posted on 14FEB2014 ? I would like to get some feedback and or thoughts about this.
    Did you decipher Paper “1”, “2” and “3” ? Did you have differed findings from other decoded works that others have done? Would you like to use or quote my “3” Beale Paper deciphering in your book? When you get your book published, I would like to purchase one.
    Upon deciphering the “3” Paper I did not find a complete list of the thirty persons that the treasure was to divided among. However I did find some initial s and names. Especially Joe R. Conn. I tied to find someone with this name in Virginia circa 1819 to 1820, but I could not do so. I am beginning to wonder if he was from St. Louis or else where? Perhaps from where the area that the group started out from?
    Rick A. Roberts

  36. Terrence McGovern on February 26, 2014 at 5:24 pm said:

    I think any decryption that makes no sense at all is suspect.

    H (Here) Las (Lies) ha (the) tylr (treasure)

    And any alleged “decryption” that involves freemasonry and esoteric stuff sounds like the work of the lunatic fringe….

    It’s either a hoax or out-of-date (and probably useless) directions to some money. Even if there was money, who says it hasn’t been discovered by someone who knows nothing of the Beale Papers over the last two hundred years?

  37. , Rick A. Roberts on February 27, 2014 at 4:19 am said:

    What do you think of my deciphering of the Beale Paper “3”? I think that it makes sense. Many people think that it had a list of thirty persons and their relatives that the treasure was to be divided among. However my translation of the message only mentions a few names and abbreviations. Finding out who the people were has been very difficult.
    It would be nice to know there is any group of people planning to legally search for the Beale Treasure after this winter is over?
    Does anyone else out there have a deciphering of the Beale Paper “3” to post? Thank you,
    Rick A.Roberts

  38. Manny on April 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm said:

    is this site still active?

  39. Manny: why, yes it is. 🙂 Is there some Beale Papers news I’ve missed?

  40. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 5:01 am said:

    ive been deep into this since 1988 and my conclude is zilch withjout the key is useless to pursue time to get a life and if by chance you get a hankerin to follow up good luck solvin this is like winnin the lottery if youre meant to solve so be it good luckb hope it doesnt cost you much but your time it sure ruined luck is the key get it number 80 to 89ine

  41. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 5:12 am said:

    do you think ward would have given the exact locality of bufords tavern if it wasnt a desperate attempt for some one to solve the cypher and have to go to him to geyt more proper info if i solved paper two i would have come up with some plan to moreorless dupe the solver to come forwardso as i coild corrroberate his info with mine [secret] to really lead me to the locale

  42. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 5:40 am said:

    thomas jefferson beale i know in his time he was financially strapped had to sell off alot was acypher genious named after a famous pres who was in receivership at the time probably had hlf breed sons eand daughters had ti sell his favorites i would have sent out west to escape the auction blockjust a notion father protct his son who named their son after pres slaves half breeds and it seemed the biggest threat at the time was having to come back to virghinia i thoght about all this over the years i think you could investigate history and write a book on american history that would open alot of other books about how the west was really won how many sons of pres and wealthy plantation owners were sent out west to escape bankruptcy foreclosure and auction i know if it was my half breed son or daught i would try anything to protect them and thats how i arrived at the understanding of why beale would leave the comforts of virginia to roam the west as a freeman and how wealth wouldvtake a backseat to freedom as a maN AND ITS NOT A MATTER OF SOLVING BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT MAKES A MAN WEALTHY THE ANSWER IS CONTAINED WITHIN GOOD LUCK AND LONG LIFE

  43. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 6:19 am said:

    EVERY TIME I LOOK UP THE BEALE CODES I GET DISHEARTENED BY THE SERIOUSNESS VOF SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD MAPS OF VIRGHINIA CONNETICVUT IN THOSE DAYS THEY WRENT ALL THE WAY TOWARDS MISSOURI THERE WERE 6 AREAS NAMED BUFORDS NOT TAVERN BUTBUFORDS AS FAR AS WEST VIRGINIA KENTUCKY DO YOU THINK WARDBWOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN MISINFORMATION AS TO THE COUNTY I SURE WOILD NOT GIVE THAT INFO UP AFTER SPENDING SO MUCH TIME SOLVING I WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANOTHER LOCALE AND CHANGED THE ORIGINAL DECYPHER TO FIT MY PLAN HOPING SOMEONE WOULD SOLVE 2 ITS ONLY COMMON SENSE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD EVENTUALLY SOLVE IT MY CONCLUSION IS THAT WARD IN HIS GREED MADE THIS CYPHER MUCH HARDER TO SOLVE AND OVER THE YEARS ITS BECOME UNSOLVABLE FIRST YOU HAVE TO FILTER OUT THE BULLSHIT THEN IF YOU HAVE GOOD LUCK YOLL HAPPEN ON A WAY TO FIGURE ITEITHER YOU FIND IT OR ALL ELSE FAILS YOULL FIND SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF AND I HOPE THATS A GOOD TREASURE GOD BLESS YOU

  44. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 6:42 am said:

    EITHER IT BE GENIOUS OR A DOG CHASING A RABBIT OR SOME BUFOON TRIPING OVER HIS UNTIED SHOELACE AND STUMBLING ON THE CACHE I HOPE IT HAPPENS IN MY LIFETIME CAUSE WERE NOT HERE FOREVER AND I SURE WOULD LIKE TO TELL SOMEBODY IN THE NEXT LIFESUMPTIN THEY DIDNT KNOW

  45. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 7:12 am said:

    COME ON BEFOR WARD CAME ALONG THE CODE MOST LIKELY WAS SOLVABLE BUT THE THOIGHT OF RICHES CORRUPTS MANY IF NOT ALLIN A GREEDY VAIN ATTEMPT TO GAIN IT AAND TO SOLVE HIS ROADBLOCK HE DEVISED THIS SCAM NOT REALIZING HE COMPLICA ALONG WITH THE UNSOLVED FILED AND PUT IT IN THESAMECATEGORY AS THE GORDIAN KNOT AND GREEK FIRE UNLESS YOURE THE LUCKIEST FUCK THIS CANNOT BE SOLVED MATHEMATICALLY THIS I KNOW IVE EXERCISED THIS DAILY SINCE1988 I HAVE CIRCUMNAVIGATED THE EARTH 24,000 TIMES ON THIS CODE ITS CORRUPT AND CANT BE SOLVED RELINQUISH IT TO UNSOLVED MYSTERIES AND LOOK FOR OTHER PURSUITS

  46. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 7:26 am said:

    IN CONCLUSION MR SPELLING I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOUR VREADERS THE WHEREABOUTS OF THE BEALE TREASURE ITS CONTAINED IN THE EDGAR ALLEN POE STORY THE RAVEN THE ANSWER TO THE CYPHER IS NRVERMORE

  47. com on man on May 17, 2014 at 7:49 am said:

    MR PELLING IN ALL HINDSIGHT SURELY YOU KNOW THIS PURSUIT IS A LOST CAUSE A WASTE OF BRAINTIME BETTER TO OPEN UP NEW WANDERINGS FOR YOUR FOLLOWERS THAN THIS AFFIRMED DEADEND THERE IS NO CONCLUSION AND NEVER WILL BE UNLESS YOURE THE SECOND COMING GET ON WITH IT AND ENOUGH OF THIS ENDLESSV LIFE SCREWUP WILD GOOSE CHASE THAT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED UNLESS YOIU CAN RESSUSECT JAMES WARD AND ASK HIM WHYB HE BESMIRCHED A GOOD MANS MIND OVER WEALTHJ

  48. com on man: I’m sorry to hear that you’ve lost so much of your time in pursuit of its treasure. In general, I find writing about cipher mysteries can be quite a difficult balancing act: even though people enjoy reading about them, I would never advise anybody to invest a lot of their time into trying to solve them.

  49. com on man on May 23, 2014 at 4:46 am said:

    it became a mission to just solve the dam thing but later it became a historical pursuit to find out why this man would just hideaway great wealth and live in dangerous adventure i started admiring this and solving the cypher became a key to my curiosity of such an interesting personand i would know so i think to learn what kind of a man is this that became my first quest the treasure ithoughts i put on the backburn er i have had some exciting moments i thought i had solved it but it never properly panned out for instance 89 76 11 83 appears on the first line and backwards near the end of the cypher this made me think it was mathematical however all my formulas pointed that i thought ward did not disclose the full cypher perhaps taking out the middle section of numbers he held back as his ace in the hole insuring him a piece of the treasure so that whoever solved it would have to seek him out if i solved what is given it woukld be of no use to me it would be incomplete

  50. cccSTANCLAYTON on May 23, 2014 at 6:50 pm said:

    ive finished working on the beale codes but im still interested in knowing if the grave name I found in my decodes means anything Iive traced the plot number to ROCK CREEK CEMETRY WHERE POE,S SISTER ROSLYN IS BURIED AND ONE RELATION BURIED IN 1820THE NAME IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IS JAYS ZEBIDAYZE.PLOT RC

  51. cccSTAN CLAYTON on May 23, 2014 at 7:37 pm said:

    OOne of my decode keys gives plaintext of some of the gillodgy string scode position 194.
    113= 5 then add the preceding
    added code digits twice
    113-5+ 10=15=O
    6-6+ 10=16=P
    140-5+ 12= 17=Q
    8-8+ 10= 18=R
    120-3+ 16= 19=S I THINK THIS IS A BETTER COINCIDENCE THAN EIN FEN DUE.I NOTICE IM STILL THE ONLY ONE EVER TO PUT MY METHODS ON THE INTERNET

    =S

  52. , Rick A. Roberts on May 26, 2014 at 7:30 am said:

    Stan, I placed my deciphering of #3 back in February of this this year on this site. I came up with a few names and some abbreviations.
    The location of CEEY or City Lens/ Hole Lens, Virginia came up also. Is this another name for Rock Creek? What do you think the “RC” represents in your deciphering? Is it “Right Corner”?
    Your method of deciphering is very interesting. Do you have any plans of trying to locate the cemetery and location of the treasure in the near future?
    What do you think of my deciphering that I posted back in February of this year? Are you going to publish a book on the Beale Treasure? Thanks,
    Rick A. Roberts

  53. cccSTAN CLAYTON on June 4, 2014 at 9:34 pm said:

    Hi RICK.YES I HAVE PUBLISHED A BOOK CALLED THE BEALE TREASURE MAP TO CIPHER SUCCESS WHICH SHOWS WHOLE DECODED SENTENCES LIKE. IN THE COUNTY OF BEDFORD JOINTLY OWNED. AND LENORE LOVE OLD POE..A BIT OF THE GILLODGY STRINGS. AND ON THE BALCONY.AT THE END. WITH ALL THE METHOD FOR DECODING THEM. THE NAME JAYS ZEBIDAYZE IS IN IT SOMEWHEREI I CONTACTED THE POE SOCIETY THEY REPLIED AND SAID THEY KNEW KNEW NOTHING ABOUT POES INVOLVMENT WITH THE BEALE CODE THE GEORGE MARSHALL INSTITUTE DIDNT WANT TO KNOW AND THE CIPHER SCHOOL AT FORT MEAD WAS ON HOLIDAY AND NEVER REPLIED TO MY SAMPLES.SO I GAVE UP I TRIED TO GET ON TO FREE CEMETRY SEARCHES BUT THEY WERE ALL DEAD ENDS MY BOOK ISBN 978-178-0353470COST 8 ENGLISH POUNDS FROMwww.fast-print-net/store.php Stan Clayton

  54. , Rick A. Roberts on June 12, 2014 at 10:17 am said:

    Stan,
    I plan to purchase a copy of your book soon. I have relatives who do not live too far away from Bedford County, Virginia. I hope to get down there this summer. Although, I do not know if I will make it over to Bedford county.
    Did you come across the name Joe R. Conn in your deciphering or research?
    Do you think that the Beale Treasure might be buried in the cemetery? Thanks.

  55. Nick, I have a website where I explain the long strings of letters in cipher 1 and many other things about The Beale Papers. It is the result of 12 years of my investigations.
    The website is thethomasjbealehoax.com

    Comments can also be sent to Richard Wassmer@gmail.com

  56. com mon man on July 27, 2014 at 1:31 am said:

    to rick roberts june 12 20 years ago a couple were prosecuted for tearing up graves in an old church cemetery im pretty sure in 1819-21 desecrating a grave or cemetery usually resulted in hanging a party of people digging in a cemetery in those days would have been noticed by a church official or congregation i thoght i had the cypher solved in1995 using the cemetery angle but as you delve deeper into the cypher you come across alot of different scenarios you start looking outside the cypher for angles for solving i have concluded the only way to solve it is to keep playing the numbers if youre lucky youll solve it

  57. What happened to the review?

  58. Paul Stewart on December 3, 2014 at 2:29 am said:

    Everyone on this site- My proof is almost done. Its taken a lot longer than intended because I’ve been working in China most of this year. I intend however to send it out to everyone and their uncle who wants a copy. Anyone (even those who think my proof is part of the “lunatic fringe”!), who is interested in receiving it please email me at paulstewartsongs@aol.com and I will send it you free of charge. I’m hoping I might finish it by Feb 2015. I guarantee that it won’t disappoint.

  59. Kenneth Bauman on March 5, 2015 at 5:25 pm said:

    Hi Nick,

    I am working on a form of secret writing I call “Literary Steganography” that links the Sonnets (attributed to William Shakespeare), written by the 17th Earl of Oxford (Edward de Vere), to Ralph Waldo Emerson who had discovered the same form of secret writing (in the Sonnets) and utilized it in his steganographic poetry (he created an American national treasure hunt ). The Sonnets are a hidden narrative that runs consecutively; the narrative is a personal dialogue with future emanate (Emerson), then myself later in time. Emerson and Edgar Allan Poe both knew this secret and used it in their work…Poe, namely, in his tale “The Gold Bug”. Project Red Knee, the conduit for the discovery of Literary Steganography, is also the conduit for the solution of six locations of suspected wealth associated with the Beale Papers mystery. The sites have been worked to location and are untouchable due national historical sites. A seventh site (confidential) is soon to be…… well, I say, confidential – sorry. The near future proves to be an exciting time. The entire mystery goes back as far as, at least, Elizabeth I of England; it includes the hiding of an ancient treasure of antiquity near Oak Island, Nova Scotia and much more. The “chestnut” is long over due to be told; I will commence soon. Anyone that wishes to contribute to this line of discussion is encouraged; to talk to me privately, please write: kabauman86@hotmail.com

  60. ANDRES CASTRO on April 2, 2015 at 12:13 am said:

    una sola pregunta porque el numero 1 sale una sola ves y los demás números se repiten dos y hasta tres veces
    el 1 es clase infinita de un área
    entoces 1 es un área determinada en el infinito

  61. Justin on April 10, 2015 at 7:16 pm said:

    Is this site active?

  62. Justin: why yes, this site is very active. 🙂

  63. Kenneth Bauman on April 12, 2015 at 1:47 am said:

    Justin:

    Why, what do you believe?

    http://www.thebealekey.com

  64. Justintime on June 26, 2015 at 12:48 am said:

    The Key will merely state the contents of the vault, which the DOI is key, with an exact location. A DECLARATION with an exact location on it, for it will easily be found… The letter from St. Louis to Morriss, is the key to the Key, it says and I quote, The Key Is in the Hands of a friend(my dear friend Morriss, Your Friend TJB), “Sealed in this place”(were is it sealed, the Box left in Morriss’s charge, endorsed,(a signed DOI with an exact location).. the key has to meet Key criteria, lol…the Key and story is very real. Much older, in a time when Bedford was less populated, that was there delima, and time lapse was part of there plan, the Beale Pamphlet was am an attempt to locate the missing key, probably by the ones that Beale spoke of impersonating his party, see the ones that refused were the only ones that knew of the party existing, probably Risqué was one, ward being grandson…probably reason for the duel… The Key has Been found, and the vault located, so good luck…..Thanks Justintime.

  65. Kenneth Bauman on August 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm said:

    justintime….I’ve heard much about you from “Eldo”. We talk. Nice work. Inquire of him about me. Later.

  66. Kenneth Bauman on August 12, 2015 at 11:41 am said:

    http://www.thebealekey.com

    🙂

    PTSNS,STSTOTTLTSAI,DSTSTOTLTA,TSHSSH,*STS

    TOTA*AHD*SPSH,HSIO*TAHHHLTSHHLTYTSHTS,HP,O*N,L

    T,SSAPTASTSTPTTLSAASI,TTS,HASI,TASI,TTS,HAHDTS,H

    ASI,TTDSA,ISHOSALHSTS,STS,SHLTYHAATTLSATSHTSHA

    HDTSHLSHHTDSA,A*OA*AS,HATA*NHO

  67. If ‘B2’ could be decoded the Declaration of Independence,
    is it possible that B1 and B3 can be decoded using other important American documents? If so which documents have been tried? The Louisiana Purchase Treaty?

  68. n.than. on August 16, 2015 at 1:24 am said:

    hey there…looking for more cipher mysteries????……..
    I give you this:6-10 4-03-20-14-15-24-18-31 32-38-11-8-52
    47-46 9-22-7-34-63 08-60-02-66(36)
    I am a modern living expert on cryptography….I believe it is impossible to anyone crack my secret codes and ciphers,so with friendly motive I CHALLENGE YOU give a try!!!!

  69. Has anyone tried a certain book of the bible or something written by Quakers (key in hands of friends). I just learned this cipher exists and am fascinated.

  70. Kenneth Bauman on August 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm said:

    Hi Angie…here’s where you should concentrate on for Beale:

    http://www.thebealekey.com

    1+2+3+4+5+6+ ………. 33+34+35+36 = ????

    And, here’s my effort to promote Project Red Knee, a product of the Beale Papers:

    http://irnfiles.com/audio/NVRBauman.mp3

    kabauman86@hotmail.com

  71. Justintime on October 27, 2015 at 3:01 pm said:

    The letters state that without the aid of a key, not keys. The letters state that the key will “merely” state the contents of the vault with an exact location. Meaning that the key is a Declaration of Independence with a map or maps on it. There is no number one or three cipher, one is the DOI, number three can be found, with the individual portions in the vault. Were was this key? Look at the letter from St Louis, we’re it talks about the box, it says, In this place”Sealed” the gun was with the bullets, lol….Thanks

  72. Jim Gillogly’s Beale sequence with two number before it.

    Having fun with the Beale Papers and Substitution Cipher

    112 18 (147 436 195 320 37 122 113 6 140 8 120 305 42 58 461 44 106 301 13 408)

    147 = A
    301 = h
    305 = k

    AHK Hebrew term for “brother.”

    120 = J
    106 = o
    6 = h
    44 = n

    42 = L

    13 = P
    140 = i
    408 = p
    37 = e
    112 = r

    320 = D
    8 = i
    113 = g

    461, 58 = M M = 2000 Roman Numerals

    18, 195, 436, 122 = BFBF left of 22 letters 18 used

    What can you get from this sequence, I was quite surprised !

  73. THE CRYPTO STRAND, PAGE 1, PAGE 2 AND PAGE 3 AUTHENTICATED CIPHER PAGE NUMBERS

    How to tell what cipher is page 1,2 and 3

    The page of cipher with 700+ characters starts with the number 115
    The page of cipher with 600+ characters starts with the number 317
    The page of cipher with 500+ characters starts with the number 71

    From here we can see after the 700+ C2 was decoded back in 1865 or so we can see a pattern.

    71 ( 1 ) > 115 < ( 3 ) 317

    115

    Roman Numeral 2

    DOI Separation=(71) on DOI

  74. Rick A. Roberts on March 4, 2016 at 2:55 am said:

    Stan Clayton & All,
    Stan, I read your post inquiring about a ” JAY TRUST “, and or its religious connection . Were you referring to John Jay who lived from 1745 to 1829 and served as the First President of the Continental Congress, Governor of New York, Secretary of State, Author of some of the articles of the ” Federalist Papers “, President of the American Bible Society, and Day Heritage Center among other positions during his lifetime ? He had estates in both Bedford, New York, and Rye, New York . He was a member of the Church of England and later the Protestant Church in America . He believed that the way to peace in the world was by Christian Propagation . Also, he was against mob rule and slavery . John Jay wrote articles 2, 3, 4, 51, and 64 of the ” Federalist Papers ” . I believe that in one of these articles is the key to deciphering the remaining Beale Papers .

  75. V. Lloyd on March 31, 2016 at 6:29 pm said:

    If he wanted the treasure to go to the correct owners, why would he make it so hard to decipher. If the guy who broke the metal box and found a copy of the Declaration of Independence hidden in the bottom, then, in my opinion, the one document would be the key to all 3 cipers – just sayin’

  76. V. Lloyd: there’s a difference between being hard to decipher (i.e. knowing the trick, and with a key) and being hard to decrypt (i.e. not knowing the trick, and not having a key).

    There are very good reasons to conclude that – exactly as you suggest – the same cryptographic key (i.e. Beale’s oddly-numbered Declaration of Independence) will work not just for B2, but for B1 and B3 as well. The problem is that it looks as though there’s a trick we’re missing as well. 🙁

  77. Nathaniel Wilcox on April 25, 2016 at 4:03 am said:

    This is lovely stuff! It is so very interesting. I have a hunch though that perhaps he used an ottendorf cipher mixed with a book cipher. Just a suggestion. It could be coordinats and not letters after all

  78. Nathaniel: I’m pretty sure that the apparent presence of plaintext strings such as ABFDEFGHIIJKLMMNOHPP in B1 is a very strong indication that we’re painfully close to an answer using little more than the stuff we already have in our hands. We’re staring it in the face, basically. 🙁

  79. Leokadia Janiszewska on May 31, 2016 at 6:40 pm said:

    Rozwiązanie 3 szyfrów matematycznych THOMAS BEALE:
    1. Gwiazdozbiór SMOKA ale bez GŁOWY SMOKA
    2. GŁOWA SMOKA
    3. Gwiazdozbiór ANDROMEDA
    4. Liczba 1706 – Benjamin Franklin, USA.
    POLAND, Gdynia, Leokadia Janiszewska, 31.05.2016

  80. Cat Darensbourg on July 8, 2016 at 1:49 pm said:

    Dear Nick,

    As of Memorial Day Weekend, I started to get interesting “noise” from Beale 1. I stashed the progress I made into a Dropbox folder, and was wondering if I could show it to you. I am not calling this a final solve just yet — but if this is not the answer at least I have found an interesting way to encrypt something. Please let me know the best way get the info to you.

    Thanks.

    –Cat

  81. nickpelling on July 8, 2016 at 2:00 pm said:

    Cat: please feel free to email me a link at my Latinized email address: nickpellingus atus nickpellingus dotus comus (without the -us bits). 🙂

    Though (just so you know) I’m unlikely to be able to respond for a fair few days, so please don’t expect a superquick reply. 🙁

  82. Brandon Gaddy on July 11, 2016 at 7:50 pm said:

    So if paper number 1’s highest number is 2906 then obviosly it couldnt be the DOI as the cipher. But it stil seems like it is a book chiper so what if you took the date of the writing of the ciphers 1819-1820 and took any important/Famous documents /Books or writings before 1820 and then checked the number of words it has and rule out the one’s consisting of the amount of words being less than 2906 and then checking those Documents/ Books to see if they fit the cipher

  83. Brandon Gaddy on July 11, 2016 at 8:08 pm said:

    Also BTW i am very interested is coes and ciphers and that ind of thing u guys seem 2 have a lot of knowledge of them coul anyone help me become better at coes and ect,?

  84. nickpelling on July 11, 2016 at 8:08 pm said:

    Brandon: the fact that B1 both has stats that point to the same DoI source as B2 and yet apparently has number entries that are too high for it is a really interesting thing. I really ought to do a post on that, it really isn’t necessary to start looking anywhere else… 🙂

  85. Brandon Gaddy on July 11, 2016 at 8:15 pm said:

    Nick: So if i understand what you are saying correctly you agree that the numbers being 2 high is interesting but you dont agree in the idea of searching for other keys

  86. Brandon Gaddy on July 11, 2016 at 8:32 pm said:

    Nickpelling do u run this site? if not do u know who does?

  87. Brandon Gaddy on July 11, 2016 at 9:01 pm said:

    i agree we should look at the louisiana purchase treaty because:
    1. IDK just a hunch and…
    2. Thomas Jefferson Beale had hid the treasure and Thomas Jefferson made the Louisiana purchase treaty

  88. milongal on July 12, 2016 at 2:50 am said:

    Don’t know whether you’ve seen this….it’s something I read a long, long time ago and always meant to post here, but could never find it again. It’s an interesting idea on the Gillogly strings….(It’s been around a long time, so you might have seen them already)

    http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page27.htm

  89. Brandon Gaddy on July 12, 2016 at 5:10 pm said:

    I do have a beleif that the louisiana purchase treaty documents could be the key to #1 i don’t really have the time to number it but could i ask any one who is interested to plz number it then send it to my email DeathlyNinja2A (at) gmail (dot) com?

  90. Cat Darensbourg on September 14, 2016 at 7:45 pm said:

    Dear Nick,

    I think I am going to try to look at Cipher 2 again in light of the “noise” production from Cipher 1. In particular, I *think* (and this is stretching my poor, overworked brain cells really far) that Cipher 2, although a book cipher, may hold another message in the style of Cipher 1, levels 3 and 4 *if* we put in in the original line format and then marked all the “miscounted” numbers after word 490 in the Beale’s Version of the word-counted Declaration of Independence. If I am right, there may be more interesting stuff to be found. If not, then at least I will have put forth a quaint and sneaky way to hide a second message in a common book-cipher.

  91. After decoding the Beale ciphers and working it to a final draft. I found a cipher within the ciphers. The first page after decoding holds the epitaph of Thomas Beale over 100 of the 500+ characters in the cipher hold this information. There is also some reference to Los Lunas New Mexico. More information later!

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