It’s not widely known that the Voynich Manuscript’s “nine-rosette” foldout page contains two sets of swallow-tail merlons – one set on top of the famous castle (as per the Cipher Mysteries header graphic), and one on a long low wall, apparently beside the sea. This latter runs across one of the folds, making it very slightly awkward to make out:-
But where is this? I suspect it’s not Genoa, because (as per this picture from Hartmann Schedel’s 1493 Weltchronik) that had neither a flat sea frontage nor swallowtail merlons. For a while I suspected that it might depict Naples: but while reading up on the Occitan dialect Niçard, I found a, well, nice picture of Nice being besieged from the sea by Barbarossa in 1543. The (fabulously made-up) story goes that outraged local washerwoman Catherine Ségurane climbed on top of the walls to expose her ample rear to the Turkish fleet, which (somehow) caused them to abandon their attack (Ségurane’s triumphant mooning is celebrated on November 25th [St Catherine’s Day] each year in Nice)… but I guess you had to be there. Anyway… because of Turin’s history as a key part of the Duchy of Savoy, the Biblioteca Reale di Torino also has quite a few piante e disegni of Nice AKA ‘Nizza’ (see p.508 of this online inventory, though unfortunately few dates are given), which might prove to be a useful resource. I don’t know whether or not all this line of thought is going anywhere: it’s certainly something to bear in mind, though.
I also found a nice picture of the same Turkish fleet wintering in Toulon, a mere 100 miles down the coast: it’s hard to be sure, but it looks to me as though its walls have swallowtail merlons. Were there any more major walled ports circa 1400-1450 between Marseille and Genoa? Perhaps Villefranche-sur-Mer? Someone out there should know…
Not exactly Savoy/Piedmont but it looks a bit like the Bellinzona castles, in which case it would be a river (Ticino) not the sea:
http://www.swisstraveling.com/2008/08/02/bellinzona/
Paul: good point! For all my research into Milan I hadn’t thought to look at Bellinzona. What might also possibly be connected is that one of Filarete’s big secrets was the site where he thought the Sforza’s ‘Milan 2.0′ (AKA Sforzinda) should be built: so if this is Bellinzona, then the VMs’ nine-rosette page might possibly be a local map to Sforzinda. It’s fun to speculate once in a while, eh? Thanks! 🙂
The Bellinzona castle isn’t actually on the side of the river, or is it? This combination one has in Verona though: http://www.italianvisits.com/images/veneto-im/verona/verona-ponte_scaligero2.jpg
Unfortunately, I don’t have a date for this construction, but there are a number of walls with swallow tails facing the river.
There’s lake Garda with a few castles as well…
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Nick – who invented the term ‘swallowtail’ merlons? Is that what the medieval engineers or masons (or something) called them?
The Skaliger bridge in Verona is mid-1350s according to Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castelvecchio_Bridge
On Lake Garda another Scaliger/Skaliger edifice would seem the likeliest candidate:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-30301837/stock-photo–the-scaliger-castle-in-sirmione-on-lake-garda.html
This castle in Genoa has swallowtails:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Genova-Castello_d'Albertis-DSCF5405.JPG
Diane: don’t know, most just referred to them as Ghibelline as far as I know.
Paul: we’re long on swallowtails but short on seaside castle walls (or, as you point out, riverside castle walls or crenellated bridges).
Rocca Borromeo perhaps? URL and a half!
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://imgpe.trivago.com/uploadimages/52/32/5232406_l.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.trivago.it/angera-420556/castellorocca/rocca-borromeo-841341/foto-i5232406&usg=__iobI4sz9rw4UCD8IoXJEdxVFhiE=&h=320&w=480&sz=27&hl=en&start=21&sig2=CM0-_DHDAzB9XfMECV8QuA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=xyX1zSro8p7rnM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Rocca%2BBorromeo%2522%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=CBf0S6zAFs_Asgbxr42bDA
At least one of the churches by the sea in those 3 towns demolished when Montpellier was built had been fortified. Presumably the towns had been too.
But does anyone happen to have a book called ‘Castles of God: fortified religious buildings of the world’?
[hilarious title..]
It talks about swallowtail merlons in Russia on p.163, but Google has chosen not to show p.162, on which the building is identified. I think it may be Smolensk.
I’ve got a bee in my bonnet about the vocab. I feel sure that one such term will be informative. I suppose someone else has already mentioned that one of the old gates of Jerusalem has swallow-tail merlons?
Correction. p.161. It’s page 160 that’s not shown.
early 13thC s-t merlons:
http://www.regione.vda.it/turismo/per_documentarsi/pagina_ricerche_e.asp?tipo=scheda&pk=1163&nomesch=sch_Patrimonio&ts=patrimonio
Stop press.
Swallow-tail merlons may be Arab.
may be
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hvk.it/images/taormina/baida-vechia2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hvk.it/rs/i_palazzi_di_taormina.htm&usg=__dNjaxFeEDDpDHHvzrlorce6IQ5g=&h=480&w=640&sz=73&hl=en&start=3&sig2=xRBlq1FVuP64GsSNQF2k6g&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=MZQD-mNN8KOggM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbadia%2BVecchia%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=kyb0S7S7D8ifrAeJhIDeDQ
I believe the first swallowtail merlons in Russia were on the Kremlin in Moscow (see link below) and were then copied extensively from there. But they are slightly different to the Italian ones are they not? Softer and more rounded:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Merlons_and_Crenels,_Moscow_Kremlin.JPG
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You might want to have a look at this Swiss castle on the shores of lake Geneva: http://www.chillon.ch/en/ It is called Chateau de Chillon. It is NOT the one we are looking for (if any) because I cannot see any swallowtail merlons there..but the instructive website tells you that it is a Savoyan castle and unlike the typical ones which were built rectangualr with 4 towers, one in each corner, this one was built to fit the island is was built on. Nevertheless, we may get some more ideas, or inspiration, from this. Also, in this area of Switzerland, Arpetan is still spoken to some extent..
The same website also gives you a nice history overview and an actually quite detailed castle plan (aerial view): http://www.chillon.ch/en/index-La%2Bgrande%2Bhistoire-0-0.html.
Nick: I see you got “pinged” or “trackbacked” or whatever that is called… when I linked your page. You can delete these if you like, of course. I linked you to my posts, because it is a good example of an attempt at actual identification… which of course may be the case, although I sway toward the opposite possibility. Rich.
The Kremlin hired Italian architects, so that might explain the Kremlin, but the other would appear to pre-date the Italian examples, since it’s no later that the early 11th century.
s-t merlons are also called dove-tail merlons sometimes.
A certain similarity between the rosettes illustration shown by Nick (above) and the Castelvecchio bridge in Verona cannot be denied: even the small windows are there. I’d hesitate to draw any conclusions from this, of course 🙂
Castelvecchio:
First piccie on this page gives the right idea:
http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1022169703011144738xyhBMyErsJ
Oddly enough, I’ve just seen some similar crenellations in Kircher’s book, China Illustrata. An old, but illustrated translation of the work is available now as a pdf, and on its page 208, there is an image of the wall and towers above the gateways. One might suppose that Kircher or his illustrator imagined it, but Kircher clearly consulted written accounts, and apparently ones obtained from the Chinese, for he says “the Chinese *write* that many ships were submerged with great masses of iron to be used as a foundation” (describing how the wall was extended into the sea).
He also mentions someone whose name I don’t recognise, but whom I now intend to chase up.
“Nasirodinus, an astronomer of
Persia quoted by Golius”
The pdf of China Illustrada is at:
http://hotgates.stanford.edu/Eyes/library/kircher.pdf
(It’s rather large)
re Kircher’s ‘Nasirodinus’, apparently that was the seventeenth-century Latin version of al-Tusi’s name.
the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasir_al-Din_al-Tusi
i know this is an old thread but try Bodrum Castle in Turkey, the outer walls were designed by the German Knight Heinrich Schlegelholt. I cannot determine if the swallowtails were original but if so it definitely falls in the right timeframe
Apologies:
The first person, it appears, to have suggested Bellinzona as the causeway between the bottom left rosette and the bottom centre was Paul Ferguson and not Rene Zandbergen. However, as I have said elsewhere, I, personally, did come to this conclusion independently as it makes sense from my analysis of the map.
Bellinzona is not so wrong. As you can see on old pictures there were also lakes, which have disappeared through the channeling of the river (Ticino).
Other details about the Rosetta VM would fit as well. For example. La Murata was once 600m long. Links down in the Rosetta are lakes, are they more mountains?
Peter: Interesting. You say: “Links down in the Rosetta are lakes, are they more mountains?” I don’t understand what you mean by this. Maybe there is a typo or otherwise I am being stupid. Have you seen my full analysis on Nick’s page devoted to the 9 Rosette map page? Maybe you have more insights vis a vis the Swiss lakes and other features.
Nick: Just watched Koen’s video on swallow-tail merlons.
It reminded me to explain, although I probably have somewhere else in your blog, why I come to the conclusion that the bottom right rosette is the Abbey of Saints Nazzaro and Celso. If you take the long wall as Bellinzona and your identification of the Certosa di Pavia and then the bearing of the page based on the two suns, East and West, and the compass “clock” pointing North in the bottom left corner then the bottom right rosette should be North-West of Pavia and South-West of Bellinzona. If you interpret the illustration of the bottom right rosette as an aerial view from above and look for somewhere that resembles that and is North-West of Pavia and South-West of Bellinzona then you arrive at the Abbey of Saints Nazzaro and Celso.(Novara Cathedral also has a diagonal cloisters path, but otherwise does not look similar).
If you ask then question why the Abbey of Saints Nazzaro and Celso is given a whole rosette, as much as Milan is, given that it is just a regional Abbey then I conclude that the Abbey must have been very important to the author. If you ask the question for whom would the Abbey have been very important and who would have had the resources and authority to produce the Voynich manuscript then you come to the Abbot. The most important Abbot in the history of the Abbey was Antonio Barbavara, who was Abbot from 1428 to 1469. He also has a profile most consistent with the Voynich manuscript of the Abbots of Saints Nazzaro and Celso.
Subsequent research shows that Antonio Barbavara was a brother of Ducal Secretary to Filippo Maria Visconti Francesco Barbavara and Ambassador Marcolino Barbavara and nephew to the other Francesco Barbavara who ran Gian Galeazzo Visconti’s government and founded “the first modern foreign office”, all who operated at the centre of Milanese cryptography as archival evidence shows.
Nick:
And the reason to make a journey by the Barbavaras or anyone else as we see on the Rosettes folio, north of the Alps, was to attend the Papal Council at Basel, which began in 1430. And the explanation of the influence of German manuscripts like those from Strasbourg, just north of Basel, was from manuscripts seen whilst in Basel, where the authors spent some time.
I was asked to comment on Koen’s video, and have now done so at voynichrevisionist. Among my comments are three I think worth mentioning here (a) that Nick’s work researching the merlons consists of far more than the one comment for which room could be made in the vid. (b) you can’t assign a manuscript’s date or place from just one detail in a large drawing and (c) before roaming about trying to ‘identify *the* building’ you have to address the question of whether or not that drawing was ever meant as ‘portrait’ of any building at all. Koen quite rightly shows a number of examples, including all his earliest, where such a hunt would be an exercise in futility.
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